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Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

I'll tell you the one thing I immediately liked better about Pike's ship than Kirk's, and that's replacing the domes on the back of the nacelles with the open grids. It's nice to see that they won't necessarily be swapping them out for the Kirk era.
It almost had the domes, you can see them in some of Eaves early concept art, but someone on the art team pointed out that the Enterprise shouldn't have them yet at that point in the timeline.
 
I'm not sure what 'route' you think I'm going on. I'm just stating my opinion about how the ship looks.
I'm sorry, it wasn't quite clear because of the inclusion and then scratching out of the Sombra-class.
"The SNW Enterprise looks like it is the Sombra class a separate class which was built after the NX class, but before the TOS Constitution class."
It kind of sounded to me like you were talking from an "in-universe perspective," but you were really talking from a real-world production standpoint, right?
 
I'm sorry, it wasn't quite clear because of the inclusion and then scratching out of the Sombra-class.

It kind of sounded to me like you were talking from an "in-universe perspective," but you were really talking from a real-world production standpoint, right?

Yes. If the Sombra class was introduced rather than the Discoprise, I wouldn't even be having this discussion because it would be crystal clear to me that the ship was a different, older class than the TOS Connie.
 
The Discoprise and SNWprise is not better than TOS, just different.
IMO, unnecessary to not have the looks of the TOS version over the appropriate time span.
 
I don't think "why bother, no one's going to notice" is really the ideal attitude to have with this kind of thing.

Actually, it's a pretty brilliant attitude for the producers. 90% of the audience won't notice or care and it sends the remaining 10% into a giant discussion obsessing over the show, rewatching it over and over, purchasing deck plans and models. $$$ in the bank
 
Actually I'm thinking I might give season 2 a miss and let some time pass so I can see how it really fits in with TOS and then decide whether I want to watch it then. People came around on Enterprise a bit once it was all done and we could see how much it actually does connect with the other series, maybe I can do the same with SNW.
 
I don't think "why bother, no one's going to notice" is really the ideal attitude to have with this kind of thing.
If they were only making a series for Star Trek fans then I would agree. And would encourage them to give James Cawley all the money. But, they are not making a show for fans. They are making a show, to quote the TOS Writer's Guide, to entertain the audience. They have to entertain so many people or they don't make money, they don't stay on the air...period.

So, as @wayoung notes, they are going about this the right way. They are giving some attention to details, such it is clear that this is the Starship Enterprise, that even people who haven't watched much Trek could say, "Yup, I recognize it." It has the good little touchstones, while still being able to update and modernize, just like TMP did going from the 60s and extreme colors for color TV sets, to "Beige! The Color of the FUTURE!"

The rest of us, who make up the smaller percentage of the audience, will obsessively wring every detail out of a frame, as was done in the past, and talk about it over and over and over again, generating conversation, and keeping people watching regardless of motive. So $$$ for Viacom.

The attitude is the appropriate one: how can we make it close enough while bringing in new audience members.
 
Actually I'm thinking I might give season 2 a miss and let some time pass so I can see how it really fits in with TOS and then decide whether I want to watch it then. People came around on Enterprise a bit once it was all done and we could see how much it actually does connect with the other series, maybe I can do the same with SNW.
Shouldn't you watch a show based more on... if you're enjoying watching it?? over the continuity?

Like, I'm watching it as it's own rebootish thing like I did Disco S1/2.
 
I'm finding that the continuity is having a dramatic influence on my ability to enjoy it. It's like having someone kicking the back of my chair while I'm watching: it doesn't matter how good the story is and how talented the actors are, I keep coming away from an episode frustrated.

So I'm thinking I could get a bit of distance from it, wait a few years to see how everything fits together and what influence it has on other series, and then see if I can get into it. Better that than whining all the time.
 
... or you could just remind yourself that visual continuity in Star Trek hasn't held completely true for a very long time and just enjoy the show as it is. :shrug:

They even changed the look of the Enterprise several times during its original run.

(Hell, there are times where the ship changed in the same episode.)
 
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