Is there any particular reason why Pike averting the accident which crippled him would cause him to remain in command of the Enterprise? Especially since the accident wasn't the reason he LEFT it?
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That part did confuse me. Perhaps he makes a decision before the current five-year mission ends that leads him to sign up to command a third one.
To keep himself away from the training cruise probably.
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Did future Pike say what year he was from? It could have been just a couple of years. Starfleet could have used wartime uniforms much earlier than the prime timeline.
Fascinating!
I thought the same things. That Pike didn't accept a promotion and leave the Enterprise, avoiding the training cruise altogether.
Nope. He just appeared, said he was from a future where the Federation and the Romulans were engaged in a war that had already killed millions and that's it. No year gets mentioned until Pike is talking with Spock in the ready room.
It could be part of the time-travel bit where he had to be exposed to the future timeline and meet Kirk to accept that someone else could command the Enterprise. Pike seems to be interviewing this alt-future Kirk to see if he's a good fit. He had to loop through once staying as captain of the Enterprise so he could avoid the accident.
This also could help with the actual accident. In the Discovery/SNW depiction of the accident it looked like Pike was just accidentally there and ordered the cadets that were standing around before the room exploded. That version had Pike attempting to save a cadet and he got caught in the explosion.
In the TOS version, "He went in bringing out all those kids that were still alive." So when the event actually happens in SNW it will be closer to the TOS version where that Pike makes an effort to go into the area to get those cadets rather than just already being there by chance.
Scotty was actually credited as “Engineer,” with British actor Matthew Wolf providing his voice. It’s unknown who played the hand
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No actually Scotsman? Boo!
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No actually Scotsman? Boo!
Yeah! At least cast a Canadian!
My first thought when Wesley was cast was that SNW Kirk was the love child of Jim Carrey and young Bruce Campbell. For the Carrey resemblance, it's not just the matter of being a white man with dark hair, but it's those physical qualities combined with the shape of his face and his particular tall, slim build that reminds me of Carrey's version of Kirk in the "Wrath of Farrakhan" sketch on "In Living Color."
In actual performance, though, Wesley's line delivery and some of his physical mannerisms reminded me of Stephen Collins' portrayal of Will Decker from TMP.
Didn't confuse me - it's yet another step he took to change his fate in that altered timeline (IE - He KNEW he was a Fleet Captain in the accident); so yeah, in addition to telling the cadets to not be there, he declined promotion and remained Captain of the 1701 as further 'insurance'. (It may have actually allowed him to not be there when the incident happened as well as the other cadets.)
While I liked the episode I think I have has enough of the TOS call backs or forwards when it comes to the characters or situations. I want this to be Pikes journey and his current crew. I don't need Scotty or to even see Kirk again. This is Pikes and his crews time to shine.
Was Doohan Scottish? Wikipedia says he was from Canada, and his parents Irish.
So it WAS actually supposed to be Scotty, then?
Yep. You could tell. I think his red sleeve even had the appropriate Lieutenant Commander braids.
You will be disappointed.
He was Canadian and served in the Canadian military during World War 2.
Except, in Where No Man Has Gone Before he only has a single stripe
Boy I want to love this episode, but I can only like it. I give a 7. It was middling entertainment. I didn't dislike it, but I didn't love it.
I'll try to keep this short, but this is one I had to process to figure out how I felt about it and why. I wanted to love it. Balance of Power is an awesome episode and I rewatched it this week.
I guess my chief complaint is that it really didn't make Pike look good. Put him in the scenario as Kirk and he failed. He objectively failed. That's not a great look for a Captain and series hero. I'm sure you could say that you might put Kirk in a Pike scenario and he might not do as well too. But still, it's just an odd thing that didn't sit well.
Another issue is that it's entirely setup as something that won't happen. Further, we're told that Pike will mess up based on Old Pike. Sure enough, we see that happen. But we also know that it'll be reset and not happen. Pike just has to see that outcome to know not to send the letter. We know that for the entire episode, which robs it of some drama. It takes you out of the story.
It was nice seeing BoT redone sort of. But, boy, the line readings by the modern actors for the identical dialog just wasn't as good! They lacked ooph and drama. The scene with Ortegas and the Romulan reveal wasn't as dramatic as with Stiles. The conference room discussion about how to handle the situation wasn't as dramatic. McCoy was sharply anti-attacking, M'Benga was more mutes. Just not the same level of tension in SNW as in TOS. Even the Romulan command at the end with the "We could've been friends" line didn't have the same depth and gravitas as Mark Lenard in BoP. Collectively, this was another factor in reducing the impact of this episode.
More minor issues:
I didn't buy Paul Wesley as Kirk. Just didn't ring true for me. Perhaps with more time, I'll grow used to him. I accepted Pine as Kirk with no problem. So, it's the actor. I am now less excited about seeing more of him as Kirk next season. Hopefully, he can grow into the role or something.
I loved seeing the Neutral Zone outpost in its modern glory. You don't get that sense in BoT. However, whoever had that first image of it spinning around ought to be fired. I wanted to enjoy the beauty of the shot, not get nausea!
Scotty!
I'm sure there's more but that's enough for now. I loved the idea of the episode, but the reality of it didn't work for me. I enjoyed it ok, but I was hoping for something more epic. However, it did serve show what a fantastic episode Balance of Terror was! Everything that didn't work in SNW, worked in the TOS episode perfectly.
I'll try to keep this short, but this is one I had to process to figure out how I felt about it and why. I wanted to love it. Balance of Power is an awesome episode and I rewatched it this week.
I guess my chief complaint is that it really didn't make Pike look good. Put him in the scenario as Kirk and he failed. He objectively failed. That's not a great look for a Captain and series hero. I'm sure you could say that you might put Kirk in a Pike scenario and he might not do as well too. But still, it's just an odd thing that didn't sit well.
Another issue is that it's entirely setup as something that won't happen. Further, we're told that Pike will mess up based on Old Pike. Sure enough, we see that happen. But we also know that it'll be reset and not happen. Pike just has to see that outcome to know not to send the letter. We know that for the entire episode, which robs it of some drama. It takes you out of the story.
It was nice seeing BoT redone sort of. But, boy, the line readings by the modern actors for the identical dialog just wasn't as good! They lacked ooph and drama. The scene with Ortegas and the Romulan reveal wasn't as dramatic as with Stiles. The conference room discussion about how to handle the situation wasn't as dramatic. McCoy was sharply anti-attacking, M'Benga was more mutes. Just not the same level of tension in SNW as in TOS. Even the Romulan command at the end with the "We could've been friends" line didn't have the same depth and gravitas as Mark Lenard in BoP. Collectively, this was another factor in reducing the impact of this episode.
More minor issues:
I didn't buy Paul Wesley as Kirk. Just didn't ring true for me. Perhaps with more time, I'll grow used to him. I accepted Pine as Kirk with no problem. So, it's the actor. I am now less excited about seeing more of him as Kirk next season. Hopefully, he can grow into the role or something.
I loved seeing the Neutral Zone outpost in its modern glory. You don't get that sense in BoT. However, whoever had that first image of it spinning around ought to be fired. I wanted to enjoy the beauty of the shot, not get nausea!
Scotty!
I'm sure there's more but that's enough for now. I loved the idea of the episode, but the reality of it didn't work for me. I enjoyed it ok, but I was hoping for something more epic. However, it did serve show what a fantastic episode Balance of Terror was! Everything that didn't work in SNW, worked in the TOS episode perfectly.
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