Discovery Needs To Go Ahead And DO THE THING

[shapeshifter]

Seems to me the table has been set for a season of exploring THE THING.

What else is there... Another Earth, Sector 1, Alpha Quadrant, entire Galaxy spanning crises? No thank you.

So yeah, let's take some time to breathe here, get to know the old neighborhood again.

 

[Tuskin38]

Both are Federation members and have been since season 1 of Picard.

Picard Season 1 didn't have anything that implied that.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I'd love it if they had a new Dax on Discovery, and do everything they can to not make it like, omg there's a Dax! Just have them be a new character and add them to the show. No history lessons, no crazy connections, just a Dax being Dax. One or two lines of, "I've been in Starfleet for a VERY long time," and then just rely on the actor and writers to make up a new chapter in the character's life without forcing the show to be about their past. Maybe it's their quirk to now call others "Old Man" rather than have that be their name, in memory of an old old friend. Things like that.

 

[Vger23]

But I want to see the Enterprise-M!

The way they go through Enterprises these days, it's more likely the Enterprise-W at this point!

 

[Enterprise is Great]

They should make the Klingons into pacifists and farmers.

 

[The Wormhole]

Picard Season 1 didn't have anything that implied that.

The map of the Alpha Quadrant in Admiral Clancy's office places Cardassia and Bajor within Federation borders. Though it gets odd, since there apparently is still a DMZ around Cardassia, which there shouldn't be if Cardassia were a Federation member. Then again, you'd think the DMZ would have been disbanded once the Dominion War started.

 

[NewHeavensNewEarth]

With the catchphrases and abbreviations we've had so far - the Burn, the DMA, 10-C, etc. - might as well add "the Thing" to the list!

 

[Lord Garth]

The Enterprise in DSC would be more like NCC-301701-G.

 

[JRoss]

I don't think we'll get another Enterprise on a Beyer show. She's a Voyager fangirl and it looks like she's making sure that her favorite ship gets its moment in the sun. I'm assuming this is to angle for a potential spinoff. Most folks want an Enterprise, and we'll eventually get one.

 

[Phoenix219]

But I want to see the Enterprise-M!

I saw it! The fanfilm Gods and Men, with a very Trek-alumni production staff, used "M" as in Museum, to represent a TOS Connie and explain why a post-Generations adventure was still on the TOS fan sets. Heh.

 

[dupersuper]

Both are Federation members and have been since season 1 of Picard.

Source?

I know I totally speak for myself here (and it's likely an unpopular sentiment)...but I've never cared much for Star Trek diving too deep into the intergalactic politics

Well, interstellar...unless you're saying you hate it when the engage the Kelvins in diplomacy...or the species from Catspaw...

I actually think there's no Enterprise in the 32nd Century. I don't think there's been an Enterprise in service since The Burn.

Just my opinion, but here's why: The Enterprise is about exploring strange new worlds and boldly going where no one has gone before. The Enterprise is Starfleet reaching outwards.

If so maybe the new Enterprise can be one of the first ships to launch from the new Archer spacedock.

But I want to see the Enterprise-M!

Only M? They were already at J before the end of the 26th century...

 

[fireproof78]

unless you're saying you hate it when the engage the Kelvins in diplomacy

They got the Kelvans drunk and beat them up. That's diplomacy?

 

[dupersuper]

They got the Kelvans drunk and beat them up. That's diplomacy?

I mean, for Scotty...

 

[The Wormhole]

Source?

I already explained that in this post:

The map of the Alpha Quadrant in Admiral Clancy's office places Cardassia and Bajor within Federation borders.

 

[fireproof78]

I mean, for Scotty...

Hilarious...

 

[slappy]

A. 99% of us don't give a shit.


No rush. This is Star Trek: Discovery not Star Trek: What Happened With All the Berman Shit.

Let's be honest. This show is the direct result of nerds nerding. This isn't 1992 casual syndicated Trek (which was by Berman and Trek was its most successful). The actual ratings for these shows would be anemic. Paramount+ in general is subsidized by hardcore Trek fan subs and I'd bet my house on it. If you think people are paying for subs because of Michael Burnham and not the name "Star Trek" then we disagree.

So yeah I think people do want to know. They fanwank so much as it is, just fill in some relevant stuff instead of making everything about Khan.

 

[fireproof78]

If you think people are paying for subs because of Michael Burnham

This person is.

So yeah I think people do want to know.

This person doesn't.

 

[Lord Garth]

Let's be honest. This show is the direct result of nerds nerding. This isn't 1992 casual syndicated Trek (which was by Berman and Trek was its most successful). The actual ratings for these shows would be anemic. Paramount+ in general is subsidized by hardcore Trek fan subs and I'd bet my house on it. If you think people are paying for subs because of Michael Burnham and not the name "Star Trek" then we disagree.

We disagree about a lot of things. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last. And what you just said about Burnham, combined with the original post, tells me all I need to know about where you stand.

I like Discovery because it's Discovery. I would've stopped watching it years ago, just like I stopped Voyager, Enterprise, and Lower Decks, if I didn't like it.

As far as the "fanwanking", you already got as much about the Temporal War as you're going to get. The ENT writers dropped the idea at the beginning of their fourth season -- an idea that was forced on them by UPN, I might add -- and the DSC writers didn't want to touch it and hand-waved it off. This isn't a story they're interested in telling and I don't blame them. It's in DSC's past and behind them, timeline-wise. Let it stay in the rear-view mirror.

If you want to see it so bad, who knows, maybe they'll have some other Star Trek series about it. You can wait over there with everyone else who didn't get what they want.

EDITED TO ADD: If you want to see what people here think about them doing something with the Temporal Cold War, look in this thread right here. You don't have to take my word for it, you can just see the level of "enthusiasm" for yourself. Almost no one wants it. That's why I can confidently say 99% of us don't give a shit.

If I remember right, even ENT Fans were sick of the Temporal War by the time it was dropped from the series.

 

[slappy]

We disagree about a lot of things. This isn't the first time and it won't be the last. And what you just said about Burnham, combined with the original post, tells me all I need to know about where you stand.

I don't know what else we disagree about. I get the impression you don't know where I stand at ALL though. I do, however, miss good old-fashioned misplaced internet snarkiness on these boards. Reminds me of the good old days after episodes of Enterprise.

I like Discovery because it's Discovery. I would've stopped watching it years ago, just like I stopped Voyager, Enterprise, and Lower Decks, if I didn't like it.

I like Discovery too. Many do seem to hate it for some reason. None of this being the point. Michael is cool, but I seriously doubt there are multiple Trek series on TV because the popularity of Michael Burnham can't be contained. It's because it's Trek.

As far as the "fanwanking", you already got as much about the Temporal War as you're going to get. The ENT writers dropped the idea at the beginning of their fourth season -- an idea that was forced on them by UPN, I might add -- and the DSC writers didn't want to touch it and hand-waved it off. This isn't a story they're interested in telling and I don't blame them. It's in DSC's past and behind them, timeline-wise. Let it stay in the rear-view mirror.

You're way too focused on a minor detail of what I said and not the whole. I want to know more about what happened to the stuff I've invested in for decades. Fill in the background of the 50 year picture that's been created.

If you want to see it so bad, who knows, maybe they'll have some other Star Trek series about it. You can wait over there with everyone else who didn't get what they want.

EDITED TO ADD: If you want to see what people here think about them doing something with the Temporal Cold War, look in this thread right here. You don't have to take my word for it, you can just see the level of "enthusiasm" for yourself. Almost no one wants it. That's why I can confidently say 99% of us don't give a shit.

If I remember right, even ENT Fans were sick of the Temporal War by the time it was dropped from the series.

I can confidently say that many of us would eat up backstory on damn near anything in this universe, hence the reason there's a thread about it at all. I don't even care about Enterprise for the most part, it was just an example. One that really sticks in your craw for some reason .

I think I'll wait right here, but thank you for the suggestion.

 

[fireproof78]

You're way too focused on a minor detail of what I said and not the whole. I want to know more about what happened to the stuff I've invested in for decades. Fill in the background of the 50 year picture that's been created.

Well, we are Trek fans. Focusing on minor inane details is kind of our thing.

And, I'm invested in Star Trek. But, I want to go forward, not rehash old powers and "Where are they now?" type stuff. If I never see Klingons again I would be just fine.