technically season 1 isn't done since it's split in 2 part of ten episode each
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Well isn't that silly? If the second part is this year rather than last, sounds like two seasons to me!
I think that was a deliberate move on the part of the creators...to have the characters starting from a more Star Wars-esque setting, as a way of luring in the intended younger audience and introducing them, along with the characters, to the world of Star Trek.
Yeah Trek has since the late 80s been at a bit of a disadvantage, appearing less "cool" than SW. I guess that's one way to dispel that.
I just don't get the Star Wars comparisons. Feels more like Farscape to me, or Blake's 7 -- those were both shows about escaped prisoners commandeering a starship. There's also Firefly, where they weren't escapees but were largely outside the law.
If the idea is that Prodigy opens in a less utopian, less Starfleet-y setting than other Trek shows, yeah, Star Wars is one example of that, but one of very many.
It is more the look of the animation that is VERY reminiscent of Star Wars shows, especially the animated ones. And you have a droid as a main bad guy.
I don't think it looks much like the animated SW shows at all. The character designs on Prodigy are more detailed and realistic. The SW animated shows tend to be more stylized. Not to mention that they're all stylized in very different ways, so I don't see how you can define a single common look to them. The Clone Wars's character designs are inspired by Gerry Anderson's marionette shows to an extent, and thus the characters tend to have a "scuplted" look and fairly rigid movement. Rebels' character designs and animation style, by contrast, are much more cartoony, loose, and bouncy, excessively so in my opinion, with way too much movement. And Resistance had a cel-shaded look with the contrast turned up way too high so it looked terrible, and its animation wasn't very good either.
There are a lot of 3D animated shows out there, and they tend to have some commonalities in their look but also have individualized design styles. And Prodigy is one of the best-looking ones I've seen, way better than any of the Star Wars TV shows. I guess I can see how the design of Gwyn's "hair"/tendrils/whatever growing out of her head bears a superficial resemblance to the "sculpted" hair of TCW characters, but only a little.
So, wish me luck. I am going to finally get around to starting this show today. I'm somehow in the mood for something very visually pretty and Prodigy looks like just the ticket.
Good Luck.
I think you’ll really enjoy it. It’s a show that just builds and builds, the characters and connections to Trek sneak up on you until you realize how Star Trek it really is and how much you want these young outcasts to succeed.
Finally watched episode 1 of this show. It's really interesting. It spends about 20 minutes setting up a world that's very far removed from the Star Trek world we know and uses the Protostar as a kind of magic gateway for either protagonist and antagonist to enter that world.
The characters are really varied and fun. I didn't think much of the Protostar in still images but it's beautiful in fact. I love how it's used as something so familiar to the audience but so utterly alien to Dal and crew. To us then Janeway's appearance is familiar and comforting but to them it's frightening and strange.
You can really explore what a Federation ship is like through these characters and that makes this a perfect gateway for kids or anyone who likes animation.
The cinematography generally was gorgeous. On so many levels they went for a scale which you could never achieve without a Dune budget in live-action.
The villains, likewise were really cool.
I think I read it on these boards somewhere. Prodigy seems to be designed for a person unfamiliar with Star Trek but familiar with Star Wars. In a good way. A lot of the aesthetic of the Diviner's world calls back to that as well as various characters (Drednok especially) and the show is certainly more lively than the average Star Trek show. Prodigy sets up a Lucasesque world and then smashes a great big cool bit of Star Trek into the middle of it, then uses the Protostar to transplant a set of Mos Eisley barflies into the wrong franchise.
Brilliant.
I tell you what. It's a layered show. It's a really clever show and it's clear after one episode that underneath all the sound and fury, something is always being signified. I'm not saying kids shows shouldn't be smart, but Prodigy is punching way above it's weight and landing punches. It's smarter than it needs to be and I think, way smarter than many people realise.
I think I'd love it if I was a kid because it's a challenging and intriguing premise that just begs you to watch the next episode. The Protostar is so cool and they've barely to explore what it can do.
I really liked it. Really, a lot. I believe subsequent episodes are about 20-22 minutes? Should be a quick show to burn through, but it's really impressed me in just one episode.
Edit - It is excellent to hear Kate Mulgrew's voice.
The characters are really varied and fun. I didn't think much of the Protostar in still images but it's beautiful in fact. I love how it's used as something so familiar to the audience but so utterly alien to Dal and crew. To us then Janeway's appearance is familiar and comforting but to them it's frightening and strange.
You can really explore what a Federation ship is like through these characters and that makes this a perfect gateway for kids or anyone who likes animation.
The cinematography generally was gorgeous. On so many levels they went for a scale which you could never achieve without a Dune budget in live-action.
The villains, likewise were really cool.
I think I read it on these boards somewhere. Prodigy seems to be designed for a person unfamiliar with Star Trek but familiar with Star Wars. In a good way. A lot of the aesthetic of the Diviner's world calls back to that as well as various characters (Drednok especially) and the show is certainly more lively than the average Star Trek show. Prodigy sets up a Lucasesque world and then smashes a great big cool bit of Star Trek into the middle of it, then uses the Protostar to transplant a set of Mos Eisley barflies into the wrong franchise.
Brilliant.
I tell you what. It's a layered show. It's a really clever show and it's clear after one episode that underneath all the sound and fury, something is always being signified. I'm not saying kids shows shouldn't be smart, but Prodigy is punching way above it's weight and landing punches. It's smarter than it needs to be and I think, way smarter than many people realise.
I think I'd love it if I was a kid because it's a challenging and intriguing premise that just begs you to watch the next episode. The Protostar is so cool and they've barely to explore what it can do.
I really liked it. Really, a lot. I believe subsequent episodes are about 20-22 minutes? Should be a quick show to burn through, but it's really impressed me in just one episode.
Edit - It is excellent to hear Kate Mulgrew's voice.
I'm not sure where to ask this question but since I think Prodigy is coming back before Lower Decks, it might as well be here. Is anyone else surprised we haven't gotten news about Prodigy or Lower Decks returns yet other than what we got in January? SNW only has 3 episodes left, and we haven't gotten any trailers or anything for Lower Decks or Prodigy. Personally, I wouldn't mind maybe a month break for the Summer, but I'm surprised we haven't gotten news about when Prodigy or Lower Decks will return. There also isn't major Trek events other than the Las Vegas convention to really promote those shows.
The target audience of the show is children who haven't seen Star Trek before. It's meant to be an on-ramp for new viewers. So for most of the target audience, Janeway and Starfleet are as unfamiliar as they are to the characters. That's why it was done that way.
I think the people who assume that are just betraying their unfamiliarity with sci-fi or animation beyond Star Wars. SW itself has always been a distillation of things that came before it and an embodiment of universal story tropes. Lucas created it to be a reflection of other stories, not a source of innovation in anything other than visual effects and production techniques. So its tropes are shared by numerous other works, but it didn't originate any of them. I don't see anything in Prodigy that's in any way unique to Star Wars.
If anything, I'd say it's more like a Star Trek show told from the perspective of Quark, Rom, Kira, Neelix, and Kes. It's not new for Trek shows to give us the perspective of outsiders to Starfleet; it's just new to center a show on that perspective.
Really, Star Wars strikes me as a very poor analogy for a story about children being swept up into a fantastic new world, since, despite being a franchise created for children and families, it's rarely centered on a child's point of view, and then just as one character amid an adult ensemble (e.g. TPM Anakin, early Ahsoka, the kid from The Bad Batch, etc.). There's a whole literature of stories about children being transported to miraculous realms, from Oz to Narnia to A Wrinkle in Time and many others.
Paramount+ doesn't seem to release a lot of information in advance these days. We don't even get to learn the titles of upcoming episodes until a day or two ahead. It's bizarre how little advance promotion they do.
At this point, I'm pretty certain Trek will be taking the rest of July off after the SNW finale airs. I'm pretty sure Lower Decks will be the first to return, with an August premiere. Assuming this is the case, I think we might be seeing something similar to 2020, in that August 6 premiere of Lower Decks season 1 wasn't publicly announced until July 1, and the trailer didn't come until sometime mid-July. I don't remember exactly when the trailer was made public, but I remember the Canadian channel CTV Sci Fi accidentally posted the trailer on July 11 on their website and removed it the same day. Likewise, Disco season 3's October 15 premiere date were made public and the trailer released on September 8. So with this in mind, it stand to reason we won't hear anything about Lower Decks or Prodigy returning until a month in advance. If anything, the advanced notice we got on premiere dates in 2021 was the oddity, and I suspect that was just their way of making things up to us for the lack of Trek programming in the first half of the year.
I feel certain we will hear something about the next series to return the day of SNW's with maybe a trailer in time for Comic Con.
I was hoping Prodigy's first season would actually end this year. I guess they are doing 40 episodes but in 10 episode segments. That's kind of a weird format, and this isn't like animated shows of the 90s where they were on every day.
It's fairly common for animated streaming shows, though, to have a season released in two blocks. Netflix animated shows tend to have 13-episode seasons released in blocks of 7 and 6 a few months apart, or something along those lines.
As for the 5-days-a-week strip-syndicated shows of the '90s, yeah, we got plenty of content, but the animation was usually not that great because of the rushed production. I doubt Prodigy would look anywhere near as good as it does if it had to do 65 episodes a year.
Of course Animation wouldn't look as good as today, but the stories were for the most part consistently good.
Prodigy's animation is one of the things I really like about the show though.
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