Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x07 - "The Serene Squall"
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Both this scene and the recent interrogation/torture scene over at that other star franchise ended up being practices in comedy that, at least in regards to the other star franchise, probably were unintentional.
I don't think we're going to be getting Gul Madred Chain of Command interrogation scenes anytime soon.
T'Pring: And now Sybok, I want you to repeat your re-education lines back to me.
There is no emotion, there is peace.
There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.
There is no passion, there is serenity.
There is no chaos, there is harmony.
There is no death, there is logic.
Sybok: You just stole that from those ancient Earth movies didn't you?
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Good.
What was the line? Something like, "I'd hate to mess up such a perfect jawline." or something like that, had me rolling
I love how SNW seems to know just how seriously to take itself a lot of the time.
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Well it's a damn good job, I never noticed it!
Me neither, although I've come to understand, to my dismay, that many people do.
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I appreciate it when a show does, though. I mean, if they do it right. If it's "LOOK AT THIS GAY CHARACTER! LOOK AT THEM ACT ALL GAYILY AND GAYTASTIC! ISN'T IT GREAT THEY'RE GAY?!" I'm more likely to hate it for the tokenization, but if they do it right, like Paul and Hugh's relationship, which I find to be not at all shoehorned, and quite sweet and lovingly depicted, then I'm more than pleased to see more of that.
Having Jesse James Keitel in the episode was just a cherry on top of an already fun episode for me, but I don't ignore the fact that it's good to see her there.
To the best of my knowledge it's a CGI backdrop.
Same. To be extremely blunt, to the point of rudeness honestly, I don't care about people's sexuality in real life. Why would I care in fiction?
I'm gonna guess that the La Sirena set was modeled completely in 3D before being built, where they used the model for the circle-y thing originally designed for DSC's engineering background plate. Then for SNW, the same model was reworked into the engine room we see now.
This new era of figuring out what's a redress or kitbash is pretty fun, I'd say.
To the Discovery spore room's credit, though, it does have a TOS Engine Room feel with that back wall. It's one of the areas of that ship I enjoyed from the very start.
That's the ticket.
Actually, I'm a bit down on this engine room, because I can't see anything but how it's a few free-standing consoles set on a floor that can be quickly wheeled in and out as needed, with a big lifeless theoretical backdrop behind it. There's no sense of structure to it, it's like the control room from the old Doctor Who, before they started having the central column connect to the ceiling. It feels very fan-film in that respect.
I'm the last one to go and wreck a great jawline, but we need the codes to undo your ship's lockdown, Cap.What was the line? Something like, "I'd hate to mess up such a perfect jawline." or something like that, had me rolling
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Quite a fun episode, and the villian of angel was quite good, found her(?) Quite a joy to watch and hope she makes a return. Seeing as she did "survive/escape" means more later.
Sybok was quite a turn.. But looking at the lead up it was telegraphed a long time ago with T'pring working with emotional vulcans.
Which brings up a question.. If a vulcan throws logic away, is that a crime on Vulcan? And there locked up in an "insane asylum" till they "get better" by going back to logic.? Or do they have to commit some other crime??
Also.. They messed up the pompador hair!! They deserve death!!
Sybok was quite a turn.. But looking at the lead up it was telegraphed a long time ago with T'pring working with emotional vulcans.
Which brings up a question.. If a vulcan throws logic away, is that a crime on Vulcan? And there locked up in an "insane asylum" till they "get better" by going back to logic.? Or do they have to commit some other crime??
Also.. They messed up the pompador hair!! They deserve death!!
That's why I'm not happy with Sybok now being established as dating a violent criminal pirate. We needed to make his situation as ambiguous as possible to add nuance to the morality of T'Pring imprisoning him. By turning Sybok into Dr. Evil (which even ST5 didn't outright do), it simplifies the stakes into T'Pring = good and Sybok = bad and completely dodges the morally slippery questions of whether Vulcans have the right to imprison other Vulcans just because they use emotions.
The Last Jedi over at that other star franchise also did a bait and switch by implying in the trailers that Luke was going to call the Jedi out for their unhealthy nonsense of non-attachment and non-marriage, only for the movie itself to skip those issues entirely and continue the Jedi = good propaganda.
Sybok was cast out of Vulcan society at some point in his past so that could imply he commits a crime during the SNW timeframe that results in T'Pring and Stonn giving up any hope of rehabilitating him and having him expelled from the facility. Thus he was banned from Vulcan space due to his unique violation of their legal code and spent the next 28 or so years in exile gathering resources and followers for his quest for Sha Ka Ree.
Well, it follows authorial intent.
Sybok found out about the spore drive and was telling everyone about his mission to use it go to the center of the galaxy. Spock himself spearheaded Sybok's expulsion from society after mindwiping him in a mind meld while T'Pring and Stonn held a screaming Sybok down.
