Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x07 - "The Serene Squall"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, Jun 15, 2022.

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  1. Kraig

    Kraig Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    It isn't sex it's "a Rebonding Ritual." :lol:

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    Strange how she wants the "rebonding ritual" after she sees her half Human / half Vulcan fiance kiss a human.:D
     
  2. Sparky

    Sparky Commodore Commodore

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    Fantastic episode, best of the season so far.

    My only qualms are no Uhura or Hemmer, and the Enterprise is out of their sensor range, but close enough for them to beam over? Really?
     
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  3. JLBTucker

    JLBTucker Commander Red Shirt

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    well the finally addressed the laughing Vulcan in the room about time.
    Like it pretty good and that pirate captain was...... somthing
     
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  4. JLBTucker

    JLBTucker Commander Red Shirt

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    Oh yeah the first twist i didn't see coming but the ending twist i knew it was Sybock as soon as spock knew who the prisoner was
     
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  5. Belz...

    Belz... Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I did see it coming, but not long before it happened. Just the way they set up the scene in Engineering.

    The episode was OK. Some fun stuff, some rushed stuff (like the pirate mutiny, not only the idea and execution of it but with it happening offscreen). I... still have something that doesn't click about this show. Can't put my finger on it.

    But at least they represented the Enterprise well: it's still ridiculously easy to take control of the ship.
     
  6. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    It was never a problem. That split in of who can reference what was entirely made up by the fans misunderstanding things.

    CBS owned the rights to all Trek, even the stuff made by Paramount. All Paramount had was distribution rights and the rights to make their own movies.

    It did lead to a slight continuity error, there’s a shot where Chapel where the tattoos vanish between shots because I assume they used a stand in.

    The Klingon colony Remy wants to take the enterprise crew to is Qu’Vat, the same colony Phlox was taken to in ENT Season 4.
     
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  7. Quinton

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    That betrayal actually managed to completely surprise me. Fantastic performance from Angel’s actor, damn.
     
  8. JLBTucker

    JLBTucker Commander Red Shirt

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    i really loved it, i know some people might find it problematic, but i just love those kind of villains and all their flamboyance
     
  9. gweeps

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    This one gets an 8. The episode got better as it went along, and funnier.

    I'm still having trouble occasionally hearing dialogue, but that might be due to the filming style.
     
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  10. 1987SpaceGuy

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    fun episode and story.

    the opener between Spock and Tpring had me laughing hard:guffaw:
    Loved we got to see a bit of Nurse Chapel in action (fight smart, not hard) :adore:
    My monitor nearly exploded by the Chapel/Spock kiss sparks though ;)

    Boy Scout Captain - lol loved how Una, Pike, Mbenga, Laan played the whatever mutity act.
    "It works everytime"
    Also Ortega's funny lines :adore:
    Missed Uhura and Hemmler too.

    For my taste the constant sexual messaging and also costume from the real pirate captain was just way overdone, so instead of being just a natural thing, it felt campy/preachery to me.
    the manipulative captain part and story arc was fine otherwise.
     
  11. Belz...

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    I enjoyed seeing Spock toss the pirates around like rag dolls, with absolutely no facial expression.
     
  12. thribs

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    Fighting like the ECH with the hyposprays. :)
     
  13. Campe

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    Gotta watch out for those tight cannons.
     
  14. Richard S. Ta

    Richard S. Ta Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Says where?

    Maybe she already knew? He's a famous Starfleet Captain and her former commanding officer. I'm sure they have some kind of Starfleet Facebook and keep in touch with each other.

    Easy, see?

    It's 'canon' and again, says where?
     
  15. cooleddie74

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    It was worth it alone for Pike's pirate impression and Sybok.

    The reveal of Angel as the real villain I could see coming a mile away and she was a little too hammy for my tastes at times but damn, this was another solid episode. 7 in a row. The rest of the season can be absolute shite and it'll still be the best first season of any Trek series since TOS.
     
  16. cooleddie74

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    Apparently over the next 28 years Sybok doesn't learn how to use a comb. Now that's sticking to canon.
     
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  17. Lakenheath 72

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    I find it curious that the impulse thrusters were in the warp nacelles and, that by taking them out, the ship lost impulse power. I would have thought that they were at the aft of the primary hull. Learned something new every day.

    About Uhura, it was stated by Mr. Adventure in Star Trek III that she was a twenty-year space veteran.

    Alpha Braga IV's system has another planet mentioned in the canon - Alpha Braga VII (Okudagram, "Inheritance")
     
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  18. DaveyNY

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    10

    Sybok makes it so.
     
  19. Muji

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    Quite. I was going to ‘go there’ but decided it wasn’t really worth the time. What I find a lot is that when people say ‘canon’ what they actually mean is ‘some assumption or inference they’ve made based off of something they saw’. If there was a line in TOS where Uhura said ‘I would have liked to have served with Pike, and it is a shame I never got the chance’, then absolutely fine. If it’s ‘made no reaction so therefore never served with him’… sorry, the only thing that’s canon is that she didn’t make a reaction, everything else is just non-canon inference. It’s about what actually happens on screen. Not what doesn’t happen and how we choose to fill in the blanks. Now, I’m more than open to the possibility of the writers making mistakes but when somebody claims that it active violates canon, the burden is on them to show the actual canon, be it a clip, a time stamp, or just quoting the words. That’s why I asked. No offence to the original poster, I’m talking more generally; it happens a lot.
     
  20. eschaton

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    Holy hell that was cheesy. Not a bad episode, but campy in a very TOS sort of way, and hard to take completely seriously.

    I should start with the positives. Unlike last episode, the focus on character returned here. The strongest elements of the episode by far are continuing to explore the relationship between Spock and T'Pring, along with Chapel as part of the "love triangle" so to speak. It feels a bit repetitive, since we had much the same focus only two episodes before, but it's well written, so I can forgive it. I'm also going to give big marks to the series for returning to Orions in grease paint, rather than using the "mask" makeup like Discovery.

    As to what I didn't like, it honestly mostly came down to Jesse James Keitel. The actress (is that the right term to use...Jesse uses they/them, but I don't want to deadname someone trans by using actor) is just tonally wrong in this episode. Some of it may be because of how the episode is structured - this is one of those rare Trek episodes where a guest character is all-but framed as the main, present across almost the entire story, which gives it a bit of a "fanficish" feel. But I also thought her acting was off, particularly once the mask came off and they went into full villain role. Giant hams as villains is very TOS of course, but it kind of broke immersion for me, and reminded me I was watching a show rather than being immersed in the story.

    I do wish we had a bit more time with Pike and La'an onboard the Serene Squall to see their gambit pay off. It was obviously a lower stakes story, but most of the general levity of the episode came from seeing Pike play rope-a-dope with them. There were of course other humorous elements (the whole "Pike as a boy scout" thing for example). I think Pike doing a pirate voice from the command chair was a bit much however...though again, this episode is pure cheese, so I can roll with that.

    I didn't like the introduction of Sybok here at all, but I did enjoy seeing Stonn being a creeper in the background.

    I know there was no Hemmer or Uhura this week. Was M'Benga missing as well?