Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x05 - "Spock Amok"

[Ghel]

I have to say that this was a 10 for me. I was a bit concerned at first when the pacing was going to be slowed down from last week, but it was just as engaging in a very different way.

First, loved the throwback music in the fight sequence between Spock and Spock.

In addition, the humor was spot-on (both with Spock/T'Pring and Una/Khan), the body swap felt very much like a TOS problem and was played very well by both actors, and I loved the forming Spock-Chapel relationship.

While I did think of the Star Trek 6 scene as well for the phasers, they were on the lowest possible setting where they only sting. I would buy that either A. it is before the Enterprise became equipped with automated phaser alarms or B. a phaser on the lowest setting wouldn't be enough to trigger an alarm.

 

[Trekker4747]

They also wouldn't be able to breathe on it - they pumped out atmo and made the environment comfortable for human life within a force field. That seemed to me to be the big rule they were breaking when they didn't just put on a space suit and walk out like the rest.

Huh? I don't understand the first part of this post. Why wouldn't they be able to breathe on it? My question is that the surface of the hull would be at some extreme temperature (either hot or cold depending on if it was in sunlight and for how long) them having their temperate atmosphere over it for a few seconds wouldn't overturn that. ... I think.

 

[wayoung]

Huh? I don't understand the first part of this post. Why wouldn't they be able to breathe on it? My question is that the surface of the hull would be at some extreme temperature (either hot or cold depending on if it was in sunlight and for how long) them having their temperate atmosphere over it for a few seconds wouldn't overturn that. ... I think.

... Because they're in space? They made the outside of the Enterprise a life supporting environment. That's why La'an was asking if the force field would hold. We don't see them pumping the atmosphere or activating anti gravity on the hull or setting up the force field either, they just did. They made everything a temperate temperature at the same time.

 

[JRob94]

At least Experimental Bi anyway, according to her version of that relationship.

Like me, willing to try just about anything once, more if I like it.

I could be wrong, but it DID seem like she was crushing on Ortegas in the last scene. Seemed like there was more she wanted to say to her, but dropped it.

 

[Trekker4747]

They filled the force field they were in with air and made the field big enough to contain them. The gravity, I don't know it has gravity plating that can be turned on to make working on it easier? But they didn't go and make the hull temperate enough they could touch it.

 

[Belz...]

So, and I ask this out of ignorance rather than criticism, wouldn't the surface of the hull be at an uncomfortably extreme temperature to where you couldn't just walk up and touch it with your bare hand?

A large ship like the Enterprise probably gives out quite a lot of heat. See, in space there's no air, so no medium to take away heat by convection. This means that bodies have a hard time cooling off. This is an issue with larger spaceships, which Star Trek ignores, which could be resolved with large "wings" to increase surface area. The Enterprise could, thus, be actually quite warm to the touch.

 

[fireproof78]

A large ship like the Enterprise probably gives out quite a lot of heat. See, in space there's no air, so no medium to take away heat by convection. This means that bodies have a hard time cooling off. This is an issue with larger spaceships, which Star Trek ignores, which could be resolved with large "wings" to increase surface area. The Enterprise could, thus, be actually quite warm to the touch.

Plus, whatever is creating the force field is likely in the hull, potentially creating heat.

 

[Kaelef]

I could be wrong, but it DID seem like she was crushing on Ortegas in the last scene. Seemed like there was more she wanted to say to her, but dropped it.

I read it more as she wanted to talk about Spock but decided not to.

 

[Belz...]

Plus, whatever is creating the force field is likely in the hull, potentially creating heat.

Nowhere near enough to heat the metal, though. It's more likely heat from within the ship.

EDIT: Woah. Completely misread that.

 

[JRob94]

I read it more as she wanted to talk about Spock but decided not to.

Definitely possible, but as the episode let us know she’d had at least one previous fling with a woman, it seemed the *ahem* logical answer to me.

 

[Belz...]

Definitely possible, but as the episode let us know she’d had at least one previous fling with a woman, it seemed the *ahem* logical answer to me.

Didn't she say it was accidental, whatever that means?

 

[wayoung]

They filled the force field they were in with air and made the field big enough to contain them. The gravity, I don't know it has gravity plating that can be turned on to make working on it easier? But they didn't go and make the hull temperate enough they could touch it.

Except they did, because we watched them walk around in regular uniforms and touch the hull. They did it at the same time they did everything else that we didn't see. Everything's equally impossible, seems weird to be worried about one impossible part of an impossible scene featuring 12 other equal impossibilities

 

[fireproof78]

Nowhere near enough to heat the metal, though. It's more likely heat from within the ship.

Thanks.

I can't stand this shit.

 

[Charles Phipps]

While it shouldn’t be something worth commenting on, I do really appreciate the handling of Nurse Chapel and sexuality in this episode that still doesn’t get enough attention in the 21st century. Specifically, that she is someone who can and does pursue completely physical relationships that she doesn’t to complicate with romance. She’s also causally revealed to be bi.

Too often women who are sexually active and not interested in relationships are shown to be damaged even when protagonists like Dex from Stumptown or just waiting for the right guy. Here, it seems to be shown with the same light touch a male character would be upon finding out their relationship is too clingy.

 

[Belz...]

Except they did, because we watched them walk around in regular uniforms and touch the hull. They did it at the same time they did everything else that we didn't see.

That we don't see it doesn't mean it happened. What we saw was a forcefield with an atmosphere. The hull most certainly already has gravity, so that just leaves the heat, which I've already resolved.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Didn't she say it was accidental, whatever that means?

The point of the story was that Nurse Chapel was being not-so-gently reminded by Ortegas that she has had lovers who didn't view their relationships as strictly physical friends with benefits situations.

Which implies that said female lover strongly felt otherwise about it.

Particularly as it involved phaser fire.

 

[Belz...]

Thanks.

I can't stand this shit.

Yeah sorry I misread your post, there.

But yeah the field generators contribute to the heat situation.

 

[JRob94]

Didn't she say it was accidental, whatever that means?

She may have! I’ll have to rewatch again to be sure.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah sorry I misread your post, there.

But yeah the field generators contribute to the heat situation.

Not your fault. Every time I think I have a handle on the tech I find out I don't. Frustrating.

 

[wayoung]

That we don't see it doesn't mean it happened. What we saw was a forcefield with an atmosphere. The hull most certainly already has gravity, so that just leaves the heat, which I've already resolved.

Nah, I don't like your explanation. I don't think you solved it at all. I like this one:

Bah foiled by the image posting once again.

A wizard did it.