Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[Lieutenant Karma]

I believe that the Archer may be much smaller than we tho ught, because there seems to be no bridge dome on the top of the saucer and there is a rechtangular cut-in at the front of the saucer that emits light and seems like a bridge window. Also, there are windows all around the saucer which look like the new windows on the SNWprise but go from the bottom of the saucer to the top and wrap around the edges:

So, I think the Saucer of the Archer is only one deck high
(By the way I am new to the forum and this my first post)

 

[Lieutenant Karma]

And how do you edit already sent posts (I made a mistake in my report from 2 minutes ago) ?

 

[F. King Daniel]

And how do you edit already sent posts (I made a mistake in my report from 2 minutes ago) ?

You can't edit until you've done 50 posts IIRC. Good observations on the Archer. It seemed large in the episode but perhaps I was assuming it was farther away than it really was.

 

[Lieutenant Karma]

Thanks

 

[137th Gebirg]

I had the impression that the Archer’s front saucer cut out was it’s forward navigational deflector. But you may be right that it’s the bridge window. Makes me wonder where the nav deflector is then. We probably won’t have a clear idea about such particulars until Eaglemoss does their thing with it.

And welcome to the board!

 

[Tuskin38]

I've been thinking it's the shuttlebay.

 

[Vale]

Makes me wonder where the nav deflector is then.

It does have those forward-facing antennae in a housing beneath the saucer. But it would hardly be the first ship we've ever seen without a deflector dish

I'm all for the Archer being a tiny one-deck ship, but in that case I have to ask – why did Starfleet forget how to make cool-looking tiny ships by the 24th century? Given the choice between a Danube-class runabout and an Archer, I'm choosing an Archer and not the brick-like space winnebago

 

[Donald G]

Well if it's on a plaque, on set, they really mean it. 442 meters for the win!

Launch date April 11 2245.

Unfortunately, my aging eyes aren't good enough to clearly render the beam and height measurements. I think the beam is 201 meters, but my brain can't interpret the height beyond a 2-digit blur. Anyone have better luck?

 

[Tuskin38]

Unfortunately, my aging eyes aren't good enough to clearly render the beam and height measurements. I think the beam is 201 meters, but my brain can't interpret the height beyond a 2-digit blur. Anyone have better luck?

https://twitter.com/kc2npu/status/1530693123491434497

 

[DaveyNY]

I had the impression that the Archer’s front saucer cut out was it’s forward navigational deflector.

The Nav. Sensor is the bottom hull dome.
You can see two projections which also appear on many of the Discovery 23rd century starship deflectors.

The bridge is still in the same place as other ships, it just isn't built up on a separate deck.
You can see the circular area in the yellow frame diagram.

 

[Donald G]

https://twitter.com/kc2npu/status/1530693123491434497

That's better. I'm reading the height at 83 meters. Am I correct?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

The Enterprise and the Archer were never very close to each other, which is a shame. But for all we know they had no idea of the actual size of the Archer, and that almost never happens.

 

[Vale]

That's better. I'm reading the height at 83 meters. Am I correct?

I'm reading 93 metres. I did some measurements of two 3D models of the SNW Enterprise and that confirmed that for a 442m-long ship its draft is ~93m.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm reading the height at 83 meters. Am I correct?

I think it's 93.

 

[Paul755]

That plaque seems a bit cluttered.

So at 442, where does that put it in relation to the TOS Enterprise. Close to double right.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The TOS Enterprise's size is usually considered to be 289 meters, so the 442m SNW Enterprise would be about 50% bigger.

Personally I reckon you'd have to scale up the classic ship to around 400 meters to fit the sets inside, especially the refit sets, which would put them close enough to the same size.

 

[Donald G]

I'm reading 93 metres. I did some measurements of two 3D models of the SNW Enterprise and that confirmed that for a 442m-long ship its draft is ~93m.

93 was my other possibility. Thanks.

I had a brainfart and couldn't remember if the classic Enterprise was long-said to be 190,000 metric tons or 180,000 MT and was still too much of a 20th century pre-internet boy at heart to automatically think of Googling it. (To this day, my first instinct is to pull out a physical reference book from my bookshelves than search online. I should probably change my name to Samuel T. Cogley.)

 

[Vale]

The TOS Enterprise's size is usually considered to be 289 meters, so the 442m SNW Enterprise would be about 50% bigger.

It's about 50% longer, certainly. But the internal volume would be hugely bigger – about 3.6 times the size of the TOS version, or around 756,000m³. This makes the SNW Enterprise substantially larger than Voyager (~626,000m³) and almost the same size as the original Excelsior (~873,000m³). No wonder the crew quarters seem so spacious!

Personally I reckon you'd have to scale up the classic ship to around 400 meters to fit the sets inside, especially the refit sets, which would put them close enough to the same size.

The famous Doug Drexler cutaway of the original Constitution-class from ENT: "In a Mirror, Darkly" also shows the ship as being around 410m long – we know from the original set plans that the doors were 2m/6ft 6in tall and at 289m long they'd be barely 1.45m/4ft 9in tall here!

 

[Lieutenant Karma]

I always thought that the neck of the TOS Enterprise was waay too thin for there to be anything useful there except Turbolift tubes and that it made no sense to put windows there. So I guess the SNW Enterprise fixes that problem:

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(Sorry I tried posting the video but it didn't work, you can copy the link and search on Google or something.)

 

[Lieutenant Karma]

Oh it did work