Why does it look dated to you? Basically why doesn't it fit into modern productions?
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No, it didn't. Nothing on the show looked "believable." It looked real cool, though, if you like TOS.
Pike's Enterprise is 442 meters long. Everything we've seen so far fits.
IIRC, they passed on the Narada because all the little pointy bits and hyper-detailing made it way to expensive and impractical to make, especially in the larger box scale. Further, they probably would have lost a metric ass-ton of money replacing them due to a multitude of broken pieces that would inevitably ensue during shipping.
I don't see that as being as much of a problem with the Gorn mother-ship. It has weird curves, yes, but not nearly the same detailing problem as the Narada. Hell, looking close-up at the surface detailing, it even looks like it was built using a massive starship-sized 3D printer! The question there becomes one of supply and demand. There was a lot of demand for the Narada back in the day and they said "no", due to reasons previously assigned. Would there be enough demand for the big Gorn ship to make it worth EM's while to master a new set of molds?
Time will tell. I wouldn't mind having one just to allow me to try to wrap my brain around its geometry. Orthos won't be enough for that one.
TOS Gorn ship:
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And that image is blown up in size from what we saw on the TOS S1 Remastered version of "Arena". (And yes, I know they have an a shot of the full ship from ortho file of the 3D model they made - but they never did a closeup and a smaller view of the ship than even this photo is the only time we 'see' a Gorn ship. In the original version there's nothing.)
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Always loved this design for a Gorn battlecruiser:
Probably the oldest Gorn ship design in existence that I'm aware of (Allie C. Peed III and Stardraft Productions - 1981).
Probably the oldest Gorn ship design in existence that I'm aware of (Allie C. Peed III and Stardraft Productions - 1981).
Reminds me of a Lego ship I use to built.
Star Fleet Battles might precede that by a couple years. They had Gorn ships in their original lineup in 1979.
Not sure when the lead miniatures came out though.
^^^ Doh! Quite right... Good point on that. I should have said "one of the oldest". 
Yes, we have the Colesaurus-class Destroyer:
The Tyrannosaurus-class Dreadnaught:
The Kerrosaurus-class Heavy Cruiser
And the Amarillosaurus-class Light Cruiser:
Then FASA introduced a bunch of stuff, but starting later in 1982.
Yes, we have the Colesaurus-class Destroyer:
The Tyrannosaurus-class Dreadnaught:
The Kerrosaurus-class Heavy Cruiser
And the Amarillosaurus-class Light Cruiser:
Then FASA introduced a bunch of stuff, but starting later in 1982.
^^^ Doh! Quite right... Good point on that. I should have said "one of the oldest".
Yes, we have the Colesaurus-class Destroyer:
The Tyrannosaurus-class Dreadnaught:
The Kerrosaurus-class Heavy Cruiser
And the Amarillosaurus-class Light Cruiser:
To clarify, the Gorn heavy cruiser in the Star Fleet Universe has the Federation "reporting name" of Allosaurus (or Allosaurus Buck for the refitted Gorn battlecruiser); the Gorn light cruiser is the Megalosaurus; the Gorn destroyer is the Carnosaurus; while the Gorn dreadnought is the Tyrannosaurus Rex.
The way the SFU tells it, the Federation assigns "reporting names" based on Earth dinosaur species to various Gorn starship types - a practice which that universe's Gorns consider to be both an honour and a source of amusement.
In terms of starship design templates, the SFU take on the Gorn fleet is built around the budgetary limitations set in-universe by a credit-pinching Gorn legislature. For example, the Gorn light cruiser has only a single front bubble; it is intentionally designed to be upgradable to the heavy cruiser/battlecruiser design by having the aft bubble installed and by having its warp engines swapped out for more powerful types.
That said, while other Gorn starship designs in the SFU follow a similar pattern, the Paravians - a bird-like species "native" to the SFU, who were descended from a population of Gorns seeded on what would later become the Paravian home world - used more aggressive, "space-bird" starship designs. (In the SFU, the Gorns build "line" ships intended to serve solely in open space, whereas their Paravian foes built "raider" ships capable of landing on planets.)
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I have this metal one in my miniature gaming starship collection.The Kerrosaurus-class Heavy Cruiser
It weighs a ton.
I also have somewhere between 20-30 of the various plastic and metal versions of the ships from Star Fleet Battles, as well as all the Trek Micro-Machine versions that came out through the years.
There use to be a local gaming club I was a member of back in the 80's, and we would get permission to use a local highschool gymnasium once every other month to play.
There were about 12 of us who would routinely get together and spend a few hours mapping out the floor and waging starship battles.
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For a time, FASA was developing a massive starship combat campaign called “Operation: Armageddon” - similar in concept to Amarillo SFB’s “Federation and Empire”. Your mentioning of using a school gymnasium reminded me of that. Lots of us were waiting eagerly for this monster, but it sadly never went anywhere. Rumor has it that it was scrapped. Never heard anything about it since.
FASA ended up getting into a dispute with Paramount over their Trek licensing rights.
It had something to do with FASA supposedly only being able to use the Franz Joseph ship designs
(which they apparently got permission from Joseph to do) and not much else.
It all came to a head about the same time Roddenberry found out he didn't have the rights to merchandise any of his Trek stuff as well.
It's also why FASA stopped using actual Trek images on their box covers and turned all the gaming material into a generic Sci-Fi Space game with hints of Star Trek throughout.
It had something to do with FASA supposedly only being able to use the Franz Joseph ship designs
(which they apparently got permission from Joseph to do) and not much else.
It all came to a head about the same time Roddenberry found out he didn't have the rights to merchandise any of his Trek stuff as well.
It's also why FASA stopped using actual Trek images on their box covers and turned all the gaming material into a generic Sci-Fi Space game with hints of Star Trek throughout.
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Such a sad time…. I really loved the FASA RPG. I miss those days. 
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Dimensions and launch date for the Enterprise
Dimensions and launch date for the Enterprise
Well if it's on a plaque, on set, they really mean it. 442 meters for the win!https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1530643320539451393
Dimensions and launch date for the Enterprise
Launch date April 11 2245.
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