Why would Bev call the US an "Old Nation State" if it was still a thing in the 24th century?
Flagsplaining.
Flagsplaining.
Does the United States still exist in the 23rd century?
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The first five digits are (if you ignore the first dash), but the last 6 digits are the start of pi.
It's not a real zip code, and with the dashes and number of digits it's not even formatted correctly to be one.
I love how these two bits of canon seem to go together quite well. If Earth is only fully unified in 2150, it actually makes sense for the Royal Navy to have existed just about up to Enterprise, and possibly after as a historic organisation, what with Enterprise being in the 2150s.
I'm with others in thinking neither the USA or the UK exist as administrative entities at that time, but place names are likely to be kept (such as individual US states, and the constituent countries of the UK, minus NI, which is obviously part of a Unified Ireland before this point).
That being said, there are probably even much fuzzier borders than today. I can imagine several small towns to the very north of England being insistent on being Scottish.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_S2r58B4RKA
The Union Jack is a composite of the Northern Irish Flag, the Scottish Flag, and English Flag.
WTF about Wales?
If Northern Ireland Secedes, or if Scotland secedes, No Longer So Great Britain has to find a new Flag.
The Union Jack is a composite of the Northern Irish Flag, the Scottish Flag, and English Flag.
WTF about Wales?
If Northern Ireland Secedes, or if Scotland secedes, No Longer So Great Britain has to find a new Flag.
Replicators and Food synthesizers manipulate poo into useful or edible stuff.
The herd animals that used to produce meat and wool, now produce poop to re-sequence in to something very similar to meat and textiles, which requires a global distribution system to shift trillions of tons of feces daily from farms around the world into billions of pressurized caca tanks inside every replicator or food synthesizer. Which would require a regional government to monitor.
Or...
Everybody poops directly into their own replicator or food synthesizer. Which means that you can't replicate more than you poop, depending on how large your family is, and how many goats you have in the back yard transforming grass into scat, which would not require a regional government to monitor.
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it will just be England and use that flag.
The Royal Navy could just be the navy of England by the mid 22nd century. No need for the UK to still exist. Or even for the monarchy to still be around at least in it's current constitutional role. Both the Netherlands and Denmark have "Royal Navies" whilst their monarchies have little or no actual constitutional role.
What role the Royal Navy would have in a world about to become unified under a single government is questionable. However get rid of the nuclear submarines, carriers, assault ships etc and there might still be a role for the Hydrographic ships, anti piracy, anti drug/weapons smuggling enforcement, and fishery protection. The RN might also be operating research vessels and hospital/emergency relief vessels. So still a navy, just one with a different role.
What role the Royal Navy would have in a world about to become unified under a single government is questionable. However get rid of the nuclear submarines, carriers, assault ships etc and there might still be a role for the Hydrographic ships, anti piracy, anti drug/weapons smuggling enforcement, and fishery protection. The RN might also be operating research vessels and hospital/emergency relief vessels. So still a navy, just one with a different role.
Yes, that was my point.
Asking a leading question is less obnoxious than making unilateral declarations when you're not %100 on your facts.
And the Royal Academy would have been around 2067 so roughly around the time of First Contact and the Postatomic Horror. Britain or England continued as a distinct state until at least the 22nd century.
I'm sure King George was there at the Enterprise's launch.
At this rate King Charles will still be waiting.
In TNG, Data states Irish Reunification occurs in 2024.
However, at least in the Kelvin Universe, the Union Jack flies alongside the Federation flag in 23rd century London.
What he didn't tell us is it was reunited with Great Britain.In TNG, Data states Irish Reunification occurs in 2024.
However, at least in the Kelvin Universe, the Union Jack flies alongside the Federation flag in 23rd century London.
That must be the trailer shot, the flag is backwards. It was fixed for the final release.
For that matter, they could have abolished the monarchy but kept using the "Royal" title just because it sounds fancy.
I dunno, seems to me that there won't be much need for those kinds of functions in a United Earth where there is no poverty. No one becomes a pirate because of the job perks.
Seems more likely to me that under U.E., national navies would really only have search-and-rescue/emergency response and research functions.
In TNG, Data states Irish Reunification occurs in 2024.
However, at least in the Kelvin Universe, the Union Jack flies alongside the Federation flag in 23rd century London.
J.J. Abrams knew Brexit was coming in 2013!
Anyway, all that really means is that they didn't change the Union Jack after Northern Ireland left the Union. Heck, for all we know the United Kingdom may have dissolved back into its constituent countries and England just kept the Union Jack instead of using St. George's Cross. Or maybe Scotland seceded but not Wales. Lots of possibilities.
The British are a stubborn lot, the Royal Family as figure heads will still exist under a UE and UFP, just as they still existed ,when we were in the EU. Even Vulcans kept their princesses (Sybok's mother)
Their personal wealth and property dissolved into the community chest.
The only chance the Royal Family Would have had to avoid that would have been to leave Earth and Colonize a moon somewhere, the problem then was retaining their population who may want to join the United Earth when they behold the benefits of a free society.
If the Picards can keep their chateau , I'm sure the Windsors can keep a castle or two.
Just as post-monarchical countries like Germany and Greece still have members of their former royal families who claim titles I'm sure Trek Era Britain also has Windsors who claim ties to a King or Queen from centuries before.
