What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Naomi Wildman is the Caretaker's child.
     
  2. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    I'm going to ask how?
    How would that be possible?
     
  3. cooleddie74

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    It's a Guy DNA test. That' s all you need to know. ;)
     
  4. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    hmmmm
     
  5. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    We know that Caretaker probed the entire crew and then he actually impregnated B'Elanna and Harry, to make a baby, to take over after him, and rear the Ocampa, like only he could trust his own child to do.

    The entire point of the pilot was to get a crewman on Voyager knocked up with Caretaker splooge.

    Then a couple months later, a pretty blonde crewman unveils her pregnancy.
     
  6. Turtletrekker

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    This makes about as much sense as warp 10 space iguanas. But since warp 10 space iguanas are, in fact, canon, I deem it acceptable.
     
  7. Gingerbread Demon

    Gingerbread Demon I love Star Trek Discovery Premium Member

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    I have to concede it does seem plausible
     
  8. F. King Daniel

    F. King Daniel Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Controversial opinion: It's not an in-universe alternate reality explained by time travel but a real life new adaptation of the Prime Universe which is why everything looks modern, April and Kyle have been racelifted etc.
     
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  9. Farscape One

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    Even though Wildman's very lengthy pregnancy was explained in "FURY" (pretty much the only good thing about that episode, I have to say), considering that by the time she told Janeway she was pregnant, in "ELOGIUM", it was about 6 months after they left DS9, this is not as out there an idea as it first appears. At least until "FURY" establishes that The Doctor knew, and that time travel took place about a month after they were stranded in the DQ.
     
  10. KamenRiderBlade

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    My thoughts with the Hyper Evolution affect of going Warp 10 / Infinite Speed is that you're going so fast that you encounter a special space or area of space that affects your genetics and causes the Hyper Evolution.

    But since you're moving so fast, you have nearly no way of preventing yourself from passing through that special area of space.

    The speed itself doesn't cause the wierd Hyper Evolution, IMO; it's some part of space that has a special property or radiation that would cause the funky Hyper Evolution.

    Every other time we've seen somebody go faster, there usually isn't any problems with going fast in & of itself. There are plenty of weird areas of space that causes funky affects on the biologcal body. Given how fast you're going at Warp 10 / Infinity, avoiding those areas of space can be incredibly hard.
     
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  11. Farscape One

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    Nice theory. Considering they couldn't find a way to navigate while at warp 10, that is plausible.

    Well done.
     
  12. gweeps

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    Makes sense. And Paris was just using a souped-up shuttle if I recall.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    The Doctor was courupted.

    Hacked.

    By Caretaker.

    We saw a Ktarian in TNG The Game, and Naomi looked nothing like her, but the Doctor was programmed to think otherwise and Sam Wildman was brainwashed to think otherwise.
     
  14. KamenRiderBlade

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    Remember, in Threshold.

    "For a moment, I was everywhere. I mean, everywhere, captain. With the Kazon, back home with the Klingons, other galaxies, it was all there!"
    - Tom Paris, on his transwarp experience

    If you're "Everywhere" in the universe with no clear control on where you'll show up, or fly through; you'll probably run into things that are nasty / bad for your health.

    What if Tom Paris ran into/through whatever it was that caused him to "Hyper Evolve".

    It's not like he developed proper navigation of Warp 10 to avoid certain places.

    The Warp 10 shuttle was an experiment after all.

    And in "Lower Decks", we saw another Hyper Evolved Salamander in the recovery resort.

    That suggests that StarFleet recreated the Warp 10 experiment after Voyager came back and some poor StarFleet Officer encountered the same affects that caused "Hyper Evolution" into a Salamander.
     
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  15. gweeps

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    Maybe he went into the Mycelial network?
     
  16. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Maybe instead of that "hyper-evolving" it was some sort of alien spore from that network that caused them to turn into salamanders. For all we know there's a whole society of those things somewhere in that network.

    Disclaimer: I only have the vaguest of memories of what DISC said of that network (I remember there were giant tardigrades) so I apologize if that doesn't make sense.
     
  17. wayoung

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    Mycelial network is only in our galaxy that's why they couldn't use it to cross the galactic barrier
     
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  18. Gingerbread Demon

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    I actually love the idea of the mycelial network and it wasn't just our galaxy I think it's mentioned it went everywhere. So maybe Paris was everywhere, in every place and time at that speed. Hey isn't there a fun movie called everything, everywhere all at once?
     
  19. wayoung

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    ... It was a plot point in the last few episodes of the latest season. Mycelial network is our galaxy only. There might be other mycelial networks out there but the one accessed by the spore drive ends at the galactic barrier.
     
  20. eschaton

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    It directly contradicts the line from Season 1 that the mycelial network links all points in all universes, but this way, way overpowered the spore drive, so I can understand the retcon.