What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Oddish]

Do/did Klingons ever use decon chambers?
Probably, though they probably just use very painful germ-zapping technology. Feels like an all-over painstick.

How does the decon chamber compare to a mud bath for Betazoids?
Depends on how much decon agent is used.

What if Spock was stuck with McCoy while going through Pon Farr, like T’Pol was with Phlox?
Then the LGBT+ barrier would have been broken half a century early.

Would Data even need to use a decon chamber?
To eliminate germs on his exterior, yes.

Would they share a decon chamber with Wesley? Or do they draw the curtains?
If Wes is old enough to go on away missions, he's old enough to see female officers in their underwear.

Which red shirt actually manages to die using the decon chamber?
the one who was turned into human KFC when that blue light got mysteriously amped up to 2,000,000W

How often would Kirk be in a decon chamber with a yeoman? What about Riker with anyone?
Kirk would usually be in there with McCoy and Spock. Riker would be with Data, Geordi, Worf, or Troi (of whom he already has carnal knowledge)

Would Leah Brahms share the decon chamber with Gordie after she finds out about holoBrahms if a situation necessitated it?
Only if she had a phaser handy. And I'm not sure she'd keep it set on Stun.

How does it handle an individual covered in Armus?
Maybe it has retractable showerheads.

Would a captain’s decon ever come into existence?
But who would lube him up?

Do Uhura and Chapel go on more away mission as a result? For that matter, are there scenes with Illa, Saavik & Valaris in the movies using the decon?
Seems likely.

How many episodes do we get with Scotty repairing the decon chamber?
At least one, folowing the fate of Ensign KFC (see above).

Would Chief O’Brien also have to use the decon chamber upon beaming them up, despite not going on most away missions?
Thanks to "Tribunal", I think we've seen enough of Chief O'Brien without clothes.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Quark rubbing Rom down.

Riker and Worf.

Neelix and Janeway.

Nightmare scenarios in the decon chamber practically invent themselves.

 

[Oddish]

Kira and Dukat.

 

[cooleddie74]

Tuvix, Neelix and Tuvok.

 

[GNDN18]

Tuvix, Neelix and Tuvok.

 

[cooleddie74]

[Melllvar] He FOUND a way. [/Melllvar]

 

[publiusr]

It'd look a bit like this I guess.

Though I wouldn't say that the saucer is out of proportion, it just looks really big when you stick a camera close to it. If you pull the camera away and then zoom in it appears less huge by comparison:

Nice comparison. Ent-D has a “liner” feel.

 

[thribs]

That Wesley wasn't that bad of a character.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Watching Enterprise earlier and Inwas musing…

If Roddenberry had thought of the decontamination chamber and crew members rubbing each other down with oil, we’d totally have had that in either TOS or TNG.

Just imagine the pairings…

TOS comics were doing this in the 70's

 

[thribs]

So that’s where Enterprise got the idea from.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

TOS comics were doing this in the 70's

Thank you. Now in my head canon in TOS when crewmembers shower together they always do a kind of Hakka Dance and sing:

Ha! Ha! Ha!
Hee Hee Hee Hee!
Hyar! Hyar! Hyar!

 

[Mytran]

TOS comics were doing this in the 70's

That's a blast from the past! I think I remember reading that story in an old annual I picked up at a jumble sale.

 

[plynch]

I wish I could unsee that.

 

[suarezguy]

I liked Enterprise not having the ST prefix, a clever way to effectively convey just from the title that it is a prequel (while with the prefix that, and anything about the show, is really not clear).

ST: TNG obviously later on than ST, later Deep Space Nine and Voyager obviously farther into space, Enterprise a prequel before the original show, Star Trek: Enterprise just another show time and place really unclear.

 

[Lord Garth]

I've got a doozy of a Controversial Opinion here. One I wish I didn't have. Star Trek 4 is going to be a late-sequel. Seven-and-a-half years since the last one by the time it comes out (if it's not pushed back again). The momentum is gone. It's been gone. Normal people have moved on. Unless they have an amazing marketing campaign and advertise the Hell out of it, I think it's going to flop at the Box Office. Not as bad as TFF or NEM, but I think it'll still be a flop.

It's been so long now, they'd have been better off leaving it at three and doing another reboot.

 

[Charles Phipps]

Controversial Opinion:

Everything is Time Travel Related

http://unitedfederationofcharles.blogspot.com/2022/05/my-star-trek-time-travel-theory.html

I have an ENTIRE HISTORY OF TIME TRAVEL plotted out in my head:

* Historically, the original timeline of humanity was TOS and that was how the Enterprise appeared before time was altered. Starships were big, blocky, and while sturdy they were not seemingly as advanced or visually appealing as before. Furthermore, Starfleet was significantly more militant and harsh.

+ The first divergent point in Starfleet history is First Contact where Zephram Cochrane met Starfleet and became a significantly more idealistic figure who helped influence the United Earth Probe Agency to become more focused on exploration versus conflict.

+ The second divergence point is far more dramatic due to the Temporal Cold War when the Suliban ROYALLY screwed up the timeline by accidentally diverting a Klingon to Earth in "Broken Bow." In the original timeline, Jonathan Archer was known as a test pilot and warp engineer who failed to get the NX-01 off the ground and the first Enterprise would not launch until the Constitution-class decades later.

Due to the Klingons arrival, Archer gets his chance and suddenly the Earth enters space decades earlier and mucks with the timeline. This is why Daniels is so surprised the Federation ceases to exist in "Shockwave" if Archer is removed because Archer SHOULDN'T be that important. Originally, he was just a random NASA guy but is now elevated to George Washington as well as Neil Armstrong.

+ History proves robust and the Federation still unfolds much the same way as it did in normal history even with things like the Xindi War and a much friendlier relationship with the Andorians. The Federation forms out of mutual interest instead of a reponse to Romulan aggression. Technology gets a few decades leap ahead of itself and the USS Enterprise is now a much more advanced exploratory vessel with less focus on militancy.

(This notably affected the Kelvin timeline as well)

+ Star Trek: Discovery and Strange New Worlds are the result of this new and revised timeline as is the first Klingon War that happens before the events of "Errand of Mercy." Events are still eerily similar and ironically are probably due to Daniels and other time cops trying to make sure things still are broadly the same. This sadly includes making sure Christopher Pike ends up crippled by his experiences.

(If you absolutely need an explanation, Robert April's father married another woman in the changing timeline as well but is functionally the same man historically)

+ Notably, in the original timeline, Michael Burnham's family lived a perfectly normal life due to the fact the Federation (or Section 31) never developed an interest in time travel or stealing Klingon time travel crystals. The theft of the time crystals that triggered Michael's parents' murder happened only because Archer discovered time travel a century earlier than Kirk and widely advertised it. This resulted in Sarek adopting her and her sudden appearance in Spock's life, resulting in him being slightly more comfortable expressing emotions.

Can you tell I write tabletop RPG notes?

Because this is the kind of stuff I do for my tabletop RPGs.

 

[Farscape One]

I've got a doozy of a Controversial Opinion here. One I wish I didn't have. Star Trek 4 is going to be a late-sequel. Seven-and-a-half years since the last one by the time it comes out (if it's not pushed back again). The momentum is gone. It's been gone. Normal people have moved on. Unless they have an amazing marketing campaign and advertise the Hell out of it, I think it's going to flop at the Box Office. Not as bad as TFF or NEM, but I think it'll still be a flop.

It's been so long now, they'd have been better off leaving it at three and doing another reboot.

I actually agree with you here.

 

[publiusr]

Controversial Opinion:

Everything is Time Travel Related

I have an ENTIRE HISTORY OF TIME TRAVEL plotted out in my head:

* Historically, the original timeline of humanity was TOS and that was how the Enterprise appeared before time was altered. Starships were big, blocky, and while sturdy they were not seemingly as advanced or visually appealing as before. Furthermore, Starfleet was significantly more militant and harsh.

+ The first divergent point in Starfleet history is First Contact where Zephram Cochrane met Starfleet and became a significantly more idealistic figure who helped influence the United Earth Probe Agency to become more focused on exploration versus conflict.

+ The second divergence point is far more dramatic due to the Temporal Cold War when the Suliban ROYALLY screwed up the timeline by accidentally diverting a Klingon to Earth in "Broken Bow." In the original timeline, Jonathan Archer was known as a test pilot and warp engineer who failed to get the NX-01 off the ground and the first Enterprise would not launch until the Constitution-class decades later.

Due to the Klingons arrival, Archer gets his chance and suddenly the Earth enters space decades earlier and mucks with the timeline. This is why Daniels is so surprised the Federation ceases to exist in "Shockwave" if Archer is removed because Archer SHOULDN'T be that important. Originally, he was just a random NASA guy but is now elevated to George Washington as well as Neil Armstrong.

+ History proves robust and the Federation still unfolds much the same way as it did in normal history even with things like the Xindi War and a much friendlier relationship with the Andorians. The Federation forms out of mutual interest instead of a reponse to Romulan aggression. Technology gets a few decades leap ahead of itself and the USS Enterprise is now a much more advanced exploratory vessel with less focus on militancy.

(This notably affected the Kelvin timeline as well)

+ Star Trek: Discovery and Strange New Worlds are the result of this new and revised timeline as is the first Klingon War that happens before the events of "Errand of Mercy." Events are still eerily similar and ironically are probably due to Daniels and other time cops trying to make sure things still are broadly the same. This sadly includes making sure Christopher Pike ends up crippled by his experiences.

(If you absolutely need an explanation, Robert April's father married another woman in the changing timeline as well but is functionally the same man historically)

+ Notably, in the original timeline, Michael Burnham's family lived a perfectly normal life due to the fact the Federation (or Section 31) never developed an interest in time travel or stealing Klingon time travel crystals. The theft of the time crystals that triggered Michael's parents' murder happened only because Archer discovered time travel a century earlier than Kirk and widely advertised it. This resulted in Sarek adopting her and her sudden appearance in Spock's life, resulting in him being slightly more comfortable expressing emotions.

Can you tell I write tabletop RPG notes?

Because this is the kind of stuff I do for my tabletop RPGs.

Sounds plausible

 

[Richard S. Ta]

I've got a doozy of a Controversial Opinion here. One I wish I didn't have. Star Trek 4 is going to be a late-sequel. Seven-and-a-half years since the last one by the time it comes out (if it's not pushed back again). The momentum is gone. It's been gone. Normal people have moved on. Unless they have an amazing marketing campaign and advertise the Hell out of it, I think it's going to flop at the Box Office. Not as bad as TFF or NEM, but I think it'll still be a flop.

It's been so long now, they'd have been better off leaving it at three and doing another reboot.

Eh, I don't know. Agree and disagree. I agree it's been a long time, but these days movies get sequels 20 years after the fact so that's alright.

I agree the momentum is gone. It kind of went somewhere in-between 09 and Into Darkness.

Kelvin 4 is gonna need one Hell of a strong hook and a golden advertising campaign.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

I've got a doozy of a Controversial Opinion here. One I wish I didn't have. Star Trek 4 is going to be a late-sequel. Seven-and-a-half years since the last one by the time it comes out (if it's not pushed back again). The momentum is gone. It's been gone. Normal people have moved on. Unless they have an amazing marketing campaign and advertise the Hell out of it, I think it's going to flop at the Box Office. Not as bad as TFF or NEM, but I think it'll still be a flop.

It's been so long now, they'd have been better off leaving it at three and doing another reboot.

I find myself agreeing with you. It may be a fantastic movie, it might totally rock when watching it, but I fear it might also be a flop despite that.