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Spoilers Halo: Season One - Discussion Thread

Look, I understand the dilemma of the writers: they can't depict the UNSC as the bad guys, but in this way the rebels seem a bunch of delusional fools who don't even know why they are fighting.

I mean, that's what the Insurrectionists are in canon.

They're not the Belters but an alliance of pirates, terrorists, and wannabe dictators.

I see it as a parallel to third-world countries that are major oil suppliers that the west relies on, yet are dirt poor. So they want to see the benefits of the deuterium that they're selling instead of all the profits going to the colonial dictator.

Which is actually a very apt critique. Kwan is talking about how disgusting the UNSC is and how evil they are but according to her is the one who has all the money from the deterium.

"Deterium money."
 
I mean, that's what the Insurrectionists are in canon.

They're not the Belters but an alliance of pirates, terrorists, and wannabe dictators.
Look, I don't know anything about the games (and I suppose I'm not the only one). And if an adaptation of any source (books, games, comics and so on) doesn't make clear a plot point, the answer can't be "It's all explained in the original material".

And in this particular case, they wasted an entire episode on Kwan without any explanation why they rebelled. A line or two would have sufficed. "Oh no, they exploit us while our children are starving!"; "No taxation without representation!". Anything.
Which is actually a very apt critique. Kwan is talking about how disgusting the UNSC is and how evil they are but according to her is the one who has all the money from the deterium.

"Deterium money."

She met slaughtering aliens who actually killed her father and she still thinks that the problem is the UNSC.

Now, we have two options: or the character is actually a real, real dense person and the writers are doing an excellent jog in depicting that, or the writers are doing a incredible bad job in conveying why we should care about her cause.
 
Finally caught up to the right episode, so I can read this thread. After last week's dull one (I like how this week's recap didn't even include a second of it), things are finally back in motion. It was quite the ride, and I look forward to seeing how the season concludes with the next couple of episodes.

The series so far looks great. I was a little taken at first as, aside from characters, the races, and planets, the story is somewhat removed from the Halo one that I remember.

Having said that, I only recently got into Halo anyway via Xbox Game Pass. ;) The show has grabbed me anyway and I have been enjoying it a lot since my friends thought I would enjoy it.
 
I'm guessing we (both the audience and the UNSC characters) will return to Madrigal next episode since it's their last lead and Makee, presumably, will be escaping with the Keystone in the captured Phantom. So it's good that Kwan has discovered her own connection to the other Forerunner artifacts on the planet. But, still, right now, every ball has just been bounced in the air, so I have no idea whose side anyone is going to land on.

She met slaughtering aliens who actually killed her father and she still thinks that the problem is the UNSC.

Yes, while they were fighting the superhuman assassins who murdered her mother, and ordered Kwan's own assassination. That's two-to-one in favor of the UNSC being her real enemy. Plus all the stuff Vinsher did after he was put into power with the UNSC's backing, compared to one isolated alien attack. It's like saying people in the US should disregard street violence/police brutality (pick whichever one you think is the "real" problem), because you just need to fall in line with the other side since al Qaeda is out there, ready to strike at any moment.
 
Spartan-IIs have had romantic interests in-canon. NIGHTFALL has a Spartan who has a wife and daughter.

HALO: LAST LIGHT also has Fred-104 have a romantic interest.

Chief is also clearly in love with Cortana so he's demiace at best. His canonical asexuality is just assumed by fandom rather than canon.
 
fun episode with progress on multiple levels.
Hoping next weeks season 1 finale isn't going to apply the breaks again somehow.
 
That makes me less forgiving of the Kwan episode. I didn't mind the cutaway story, but I thought there were still three more episodes after it, not only two.
 
Season finale trailer. Looks like we are going to get some action sequences straight out of the video game:

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Kind of eh on the John/Makee bit, it feels like they should have made it so more time passed, but I can see why these two heavily cloistered people might latch onto someone with a similar history. I appreciated the way the train wreck slowly built up, with the glassing making the military leaders more willing to give anything a shot, Makee almost genuinely defecting only for Keyes to figure it out just a little too early or too late, and Halsey getting a little push towards going full mad scientists and executing Order 66. It's easy to see how just a few different choices could have a much different outcome.

I also liked the way Cortana got pushed into answering John's question from episode 6 about whether she's on his side or Halsey's. It was great the way they were working together during the fight with the Spartans and how she was able to make it less one-sided by giving him backup. Kai's story is also paying off, both proving that Miranda was spot on about her warning about Halsey and showing why the UNSC's caused its own problems by preferring perfectly controllable Spartans to ones that could think for themselves.
 
I'm actually kind of amused Halsey pulled an Order 66 but it completely went to Hell because Cortana now views herself as a nutjob.
 
Well, at least we got something i never expected to see - Spartan on Spartan combat, that was a sight to see ( and proof how hard Spartans are when an unarmored Spartan was not immediately killed when hit by an armored Spartan).

I still am not sure how to feel about a more humanized John 117 and this episode did little to pull me over into the camp. It was well done and makes sense within the show somehow but still - a conditioned combat machine getting a sort of girlfiriend? I don't know but it sure opens up story possibilities beyond Master Chief running rampant on Halo for a full season, that would get boring very fast.

I liked the treatise about humans as a defective race and it was proven directly how they treated Makee at a stage when she basically turned away from the Covenant but was immediately mistreated by humans so she swung back hard and is most likely responsible for the glassing of Reach in the finale.

Finale preview looks bonkers, that will probably redeem/make us forget the Madrigal/Kwan Ha episode.
 
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