What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. The Knappos

    The Knappos Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    The man can have whatever politics he wants. I don’t agree with them but that’s of no significance.

    When his pencil hit paper though, his ship designs are beautiful. His political views don’t change that.

    I’d rather discuss and debate his views with him than decree his existence abhorrent and his works of no merit because of them.

    That, my friends, is Trek.
     
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  2. Kaelef

    Kaelef Captain Captain

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    Ignoring the political beliefs of people who would legislate others out of existence for the convenience of enjoying their artwork is not "Trek", but I don't harbor any delusions of changing your (or anyone else's) minds.
     
  3. wayoung

    wayoung Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I wouldn't categorize Q anons or Redpill culture as mere "political beliefs" either.

    Edit:. Just reread the last couple pages of thread. I have to hand it to @F. King Daniel there have been a lot of posts here where people have put words in his mouth that he did not say and he has ignored it every single time.
     
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  4. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    There is, actually, a difference between having a genuine disagreement with someone, and someone promoting a harmful and seditious lie. Admiral Leyton went to jail.
     
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  5. gweeps

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    Jeri Ryan's a great actor. But I really miss the quirks of Seven in PIC.
     
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  6. KamenRiderBlade

    KamenRiderBlade Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    The Plasma Torpedo that Kirk reversed course from at FTL with his Warp Drive should be renamed to the "Plasma Cannon Ball" internally within StarFleet due to the nature of the projectile and it's resemblence & performance characteristics to Cannon Balls of yore during the Age of Sail on Earth.

    Later Plasma Torpedoes that Romulans used were a proper Torpedo, that had guidance, propulsion, & a Plasma Warhead.
     
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  7. Lord Garth

    Lord Garth Admiral Admiral

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    Pilots for New Trek
    Remembrance (PIC) - 10/10
    Strange New Worlds (SNW) - 9/10
    The Vulcan Hello (DSC) - 7/10

    Pilots for Old Trek
    The Cage (TOS) - 10/10
    Where No Man Has Gone Before (TOS) - 9/10
    Emissary (DS9) - 8/10
    Caretaker (VOY) - 8/10
    Broken Bow (ENT) - 7/10
    Encounter at Farpoint (TNG) - 6/10

    Sticking with live-action.
     
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  8. gweeps

    gweeps Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Out of those, I'm most impressed with TOS (#2), DS9 and ENT.
     
  9. CorporalCaptain

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    1. WNMHGB
    2. SNW S1E1
    3. "The Cage"
    4. "Beyond the Farthest Star"
    5. "Remembrance"
    6. "Second Contact"
    7. "Encounter at Farpoint"
    8. "Lost and Found"
    9. "The Vulcan Hello"
    10. "Emissary"
    11. "Caretaker"
    12. "Broken Bow"
     
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  10. Phoenix219

    Phoenix219 Commodore Commodore

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    The lighting in this picture just made me wonder - what would the ship have looked like with a smaller, more proportioned saucer, say, like just the light silver lit up part of this picture? Its an interesting visual thought experiment.
     
  11. Ray Hardgrit

    Ray Hardgrit Commodore Commodore

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    It'd look a bit like this I guess.

    Though I wouldn't say that the saucer is out of proportion, it just looks really big when you stick a camera close to it. If you pull the camera away and then zoom in it appears less huge by comparison:

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  12. Vale

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    Which brings us back to the point that the ship was often badly, or at least boringly, lit and filmed in TNG. This slightly-off-centre slightly-looking-up view we get of the Enterprise-D all the time, presumably in homage to the similar view we often saw of the original 1701 (and because it's easier to mount and motion control the models that way), is definitely not its most flattering angle.
     
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  13. tesral

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    CGI has some advantages. I love me a good physical model. But the ability of CGI to place the lights and camera any place you fing want them, cannot be beat.
     
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  14. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    My most controversial opinion?

    There's no discontinuity in Star Trek. Whenever something looks different or is a retcon, it's just because of the constant time travel.

    Yes, this means Klingon appearances, bridges, uniforms, Eugenics War dates, the fact that Klingon First Contact wasn't disastrously wrong, and so on. Hell, Archer's entire series, are all the result of time being constantly meddled with. Nothing is wrong. Everything is just updated.
     
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  15. Richard S. Ta

    Richard S. Ta Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    That is how Doctor Who fans roll.
     
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  16. at Quark's

    at Quark's Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I sure hope for Worf that his experience in Parallels didn't leave him sensitive to such timeline changes for the rest of his life - he seems psychologically less equipped to deal with such awareness than, for example, Guinan.

    WORF: I do not know. Things are changing.
    TROI: What's changed?
    WORF: <...>It is as if events, circumstances, continue to change from moment to moment, but I am the only one who seems to be aware of it.
     
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  17. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Guinan: Like what?

    Worf: For a while, I had....two....

    Guinan: Two what?

    Worf: We do not speak of it.
     
  18. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This is more an embarrassing one:

    I thought INTO DARKNESS was a critique of the Iraq War with Admiral Marcus creating the threat of Klingon weapons of mass destruction and tying them into Khan/Harrison as a way to justify cassus belli.

    Apparently it was not about that.
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    I can see that.
     
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  20. eschaton

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    Didn't Bob Orci end up being a 9/11 truther? It's possible he folded that into STID.
     
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