Same. As much as Barclay annoys he definitely resonates because as someone who struggles with feeling like they belong characters like Barclay, and Tilly and even Spock are a lot more engaging for me, than those who always fit in.
Does anyone else dislike Raffi?
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Anyone get some weird vibes off her and Elnor's relationship? Not just the surrogate son aspect, but the almost Romantic vibes? It felt wholly inappropriate to me.
No, I did not get that at all. Not sure what show you were watching.
It was weirdly intense. I didn't get the romance vibe - but that she needed him pretty badly.
I'm largely indifferent to her. I do think her relationship with Seven is a bit random, but then again, I'm a Seven/Chakotay shipper, so I can't talk. I guess it's just a canon fact that Seven's romantic life seems completely unpredictable to outsiders, though I'm sure there's an internal logic for her.
For me, it was Dr. Juratti that was starting to get on my nerves. But even her character became watchable after her storyline with the Borg Queen began.
For me, it was Dr. Juratti that was starting to get on my nerves. But even her character became watchable after her storyline with the Borg Queen began.
I also dislike Raffi.
I don't HATE her, I just don't particularly like her.
And I suspect that's the point. However well written a character is, however justified they are in doing what they do...you, the viewer, don't have to like them if you don't
ing feel like it. 
That being said, probably my favorite Raffi moment is when she and Seven are driving around 2024 L.A. and bickering. I hope they actually give her more funny moments like that in S3.
I don't HATE her, I just don't particularly like her.
And I suspect that's the point. However well written a character is, however justified they are in doing what they do...you, the viewer, don't have to like them if you don't
ing feel like it. That being said, probably my favorite Raffi moment is when she and Seven are driving around 2024 L.A. and bickering. I hope they actually give her more funny moments like that in S3.
That's many fictional characters for me..you, the viewer, don't have to like them if you don't
That's why I watch so little television shows.
i didn’t get that impression but hey different opinions are allowed.
Even wrong ones.
Especially those.
She's trying to get off (when Rios was about to light his cigar in "Two of One," she blew out the match).
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Or a Barclay. Very knowledgeable, just with significant issues.
Which Picard characters were less identifiable, out of interest?
I'm struggling to to think of one who didn't have significant issues on display.
Maybe that was the point.
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And, maybe it was also the point that at the end, we see that they have addressed them. NOT resolved them, of course, aside maybe from Captain Rios. But, Seven and Raffi find connection. And Picard gets a second chance in that regard as well. We're not out of the darkness, but we're left with a glimmer of hope.
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It's been a bold experiment, although most of the reviews indicate that by and large, it's turned far more people off than on. I for one enjoyed watching Trek because it showed people who were heroes and had gotten to a point where they were the best of what humanity could offer: not free from trials, but not broken and suffering them.
I can turn on pretty much any celebrated TV show from the last two decades and watch broken people struggling for better (Breaking Bad, 24, Dexter, The Sopranos, Game of Thrones, Succession, Boardwalk Empire, etc etc etc). Trek felt like it brought something very different to the table. I realise that people at large are more cynical about heroes and people with a pure disposition now (isn't that a shame?) but you'd think there'd be a niche for just one show to do it.
Back to the thread - "does anyone else dislike Raffi?" - I'd say I wasn't a fan, or of pretty much all the other characterisations for a similar reason.
It's been a bold experiment, although most of the reviews indicate that by and large, it's turned far more people off than on. I for one enjoyed watching Trek because it showed people who were heroes and had gotten to a point where they were the best of what humanity could offer: not free from trials, but not broken and suffering them.
I can turn on pretty much any celebrated TV show from the last two decades and watch broken people struggling for better (Breaking Bad, 24, Dexter, The Sopranos, Game of Thrones, Succession, Boardwalk Empire, etc etc etc). Trek felt like it brought something very different to the table. I realise that people at large are more cynical about heroes and people with a pure disposition now (isn't that a shame?) but you'd think there'd be a niche for just one show to do it.
We have that...
Have you heard of a new Star Trek show called 'Strange New Worlds'?
It isn't available in the UK for some time.
Any good? Other than Prodigy, the others haven't really aimed at that mark.
(And I should have said "one franchise" rather than "one show" as I see it all as part of the same continuity. Just.)
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