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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x10 - "Farewell"

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Overall, I think I'd give this episode an 8. As I predicted last week, aspects of it felt rushed. I think it would've been better for the Europa stuff to have been finished last week and this episode to focus on Q and tying up the lose ends in the 25th century. That being said, I enjoyed it and despite the ups and downs, enjoyed this season. Now bring on the TNG reunion (in space please lol).
 
There was an offhanded reference to how he "hacked Tallinn's transporter. Not sure how he'd do that with 21st century tech, but it was one of the many shortcuts this episode took to tell three episodes of story in 45 minutes.
I figure he hacked it with the Borg Queen's help.
 
Well at least it ended on stronger note. They killed off another legacy character and RIOS. Damn he was my favorite new Star Trek Character. One of the bright spots in Picard. I was hoping for a Star Gazer show. Maybe Seven will get it. Would love to see Jeri Ryan get the lead in her own show.

Nice proper send off for Wesley this time.

But again. WE DONT NEED TEN HOUR EPISODES. Too bad season 3 was already filmed. More of the same and I wonder who will get killed off this time. My guess is Worf...:guffaw:
 
I just finished this week’s Ready Room. I mentioned upthread that the JL/Laris thread seemed vague. Per Orla Brady, that was the point. Welp, glad I didn’t miss anything at 3am! :D
 
Again. It wasnt all bad. But the ten hour format episodes just dont work imo. Maybe they can cut it down in future shows or have a setup like DS9.
No doubt they will learn.

And it will all be episodic and need and tidy and fans will gripe then too.

I'd take Picard over episodic, but hopefully they can create a balance. No, not like Berman Trek, but something more grounded and caring about the characters from episode to episode.
 
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What a great scene!!

I think Picard is a show that tends to focus more on sentimentality than the plot. The plot basically serves to set up certain character moments. As a result, the plot may be "weak" at times. But the character moments are often very well done and powerful. As a long time TNG fan who has watched the long relationship between Q and Picard, this scene is just a perfect capstone. We've seen Q take an interest in Picard. We've watched the trials, tests and shenanigans that Q put Picard through over the years. What a beautiful ending to see Q admit that it was all because he cared about Picard and wanted to help him get over his guilt and then see Picard return the favor with a simple hug to show Q, he is not alone in the end. What a touching moment! Beautiful!
 
Well you can please some of the people some of the time....

I wish I could like it but unfortunately I'm not fond of this sort of show; to me it all comes across as little more than a setup for cheap sentimentality and unrestrained emotionalism on several levels. It's difficult to connect to the unending trauma train that seems to motivate almost every character. I can't help but wonder if the show is largely a projection of the writers' collective therapy sessions.
Sounds like TNG to me. Even in the original TNG series run:

Riker - Lost his mother at a very young age - has major daddy issues. So traumatized he PASSES on an offer of his own Command (The U.S.S. Drake) to serve as 1st Officer on te 1701-Devery time he's offered a command on the initial 7 year 'tour of duty', he turns it down. (3 times total).

Data - Android created by (as we know) an evil family line of scientists. Has a evil brother whom he tried to understand and change; but can't - and said brother inflicts all sorts of chaos on him and his friends.

Lt. Yar - Escapee from a colony where she was routinely raped by roving 'rape gangs'. After she escaped she joined Starfleet and became a PISS POOR security officer, always wanting to attack first - and ultimately dies in an act of sheer stupidity that showcased her incompetence.

Lt. Worf - Survivor of a Romulan attack; but rescued and raised by a Federation officer. Thinks he understands Klingon culture and tries to be the model honorable Klingon - yet because he never really lived in actual Klingon society, so he's unaware of how 'normal' Klingons act. When he finally DOES get a clearer understanding of Klingon culture; he more often takes the 'Human' way, UNLESS he's really pissed off.

Dr. Crusher - Serving under the man who brought her husbands body home and was on the mission where he died. Somehow she has a 'torch' for Picard. grew up on a colony that experienced a biological disaster where most of the colony died <-- And that's where she found an interest in medicine and started learning some things from her Grandmother, who also survived.

Wesley Cusher - (See: Dr. Crusher above ;))

Counselor Troi: Did start out with much trauma per se (father died), just a domineering mother; but we do find that the mother had a pervious child (Deanna's sister) whom died in an accident the mother felt responsible for, and as a result, Deanna didn't know about that child until an incident involving her mother's health.

Lt. Cmdr. LaForge - Blind from birth; and wears device to compensate which he admits causes him terrible and constant pain when he uses it.
^^^
Yep all WELL ADJUSTED characters here...oh, wait... :)
 
Without Q's meddling, Rene Picard would have failed and Soong would have been made famous by using his solar shield to protect the environment.
Q's meddling was an attempt to make Renee fail and bring about the Confederation. He tried using his powers on her to make her bail on the mission. Then he tried using therapy sessions! Finally, he tried to get Soong to kill Renee! If any of those had succeeded, it would've caused the Confederation timeline.

In a timeline without meddling, Talinn would've made sure that Renee completed her mission. No Q needed. But, no, Q consistently didn't want Renee to succeed.
 
Note that Q doing this saved a star sector from being destroyed, redeemed the Borg, rebuilt the Borg transconduit, and also made happy endings for a lot of individual people in Picard's life. It also is the predestination paradox that saved humanity's environment post-WW3.

So when he says it's small potatoes, he's lying his ass off.

Notably, it actually works in character because Q destroyed the Borg by introducing them to the Federation and traumatized pIcard by introducing him to the Borg. This bizarre circuitous route he took actually fixes most of the damage Q caused to everyone. Which justifies him taking such a non-linear (hehe) path.


No one said the space butt hole was a borg transconduit...

How did he redeem the borg? Wouldn't changing the borg in the past make seven no exist?
 
There's a big conduit that's there. The Borg are using it.

Hence Borg conduit.

It represents a new era of exploration.

Gold medal mental gymnastics


Its not a borg anything

It's the space butt hole that seasons 3 villain will come out of and the old crew has to come out of retirement to defeat it.
 
All in all, I think PIC S2 is probably the most misunderstood Trek season of all time. Maybe in a decade or so people will re-evaluate the season as a whole, get what they were trying to do and go: wow, that was actually a damn good season!
As I pointed out to you last week, just because some people don't agree with your opinion, doesn't mean they are "misunderstanding" it.

I think that as more people binge rewatch it, the lack of logic and inconsistent character paths and motivations will be even more glaring.
 
Q's meddling was an attempt to make Renee fail and bring about the Confederation. He tried using his powers on her to make her bail on the mission. Then he tried using therapy sessions! Finally, he tried to get Soong to kill Renee! If any of those had succeeded, it would've caused the Confederation timeline.

In a timeline without meddling, Talinn would've made sure that Renee completed her mission. No Q needed. But, no, Q consistently didn't want Renee to succeed.

Picard kind of forgot about that
 
Then why does it make sense when I think about it? The series explained all you need to know to figure it out, the rest is up to you.
Um, so why did Q fight so hard to make Renee fail and bring about the Confederation? First, he tried to snap his fingers to make Renee bail. Then he impersonated her counselor. Then he got Soong to try taking her out. The writers then seemed to forget that and made it the BQ's motivation. I'm not sure why she'd want to help Soong. It's just all so murky and inconsistent.

Don't try to pin Picard's lack of focus and logic on me! :guffaw:
 
I just finished this week’s Ready Room. I mentioned upthread that the JL/Laris thread seemed vague. Per Orla Brady, that was the point. Welp, glad I didn’t miss anything at 3am! :D
The point was to be vague? Kind of sums up the season. Vagueness but with a few good character moments.
 
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