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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"

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It's building on the trope that Trek is full of incurable fictional diseases (to replace the real life diseases that the advanced Federation supposedly cured) like irumodic syndrome, Medusan exposure syndrome, etc. Although we're told that Picard's mother "refused treatment", it's clear there's no cure for that either if it needs a continuous treatment and not a one shot dose. Jurati's Borg are somehow going to find people who are terminally ill or have permanent incurable diseases and cure them by assimilating them.

How this is going to work practically I admit was glossed over. I doubt the local hospitals in the galaxy are going to just allow the "friendly neighborhood Borg" to assimilate the patients in their terminally ill/chronic illness wards. Maybe Jurati can assimilate the Diviner over at Prodigy.
There's already the Bynars.
 
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How is it even remotely possible for the Elnor hologram to have identical memories to the real person?

Especially as it was never established that Federation/Confederation computers of the 25th century have a telepathic component and are able to scan for thoughts and contents of minds.

Have i missed something?
Voyager's computers did.
 
I think you must have missed the part where he actually mentions that in the past he's imagined that his mother survived and grew old.

Perhaps watching the episodes with just a little less intent to find fault, would improve your retention of what actually occurs. :shrug:
Baby steps. Two years ago, he was freaking out over everything they did.

On the other end: I just said a season of New Trek (PIC Season 2) is all over the place, as much as I like it.
 
Hmm. There are so many to choose from.

But I have to go with Jurati's impromptu musical number. Now I'm not sure it technically qualifies as a 'plot hole', but it was damn sure the most unrealistic, unlikely, immersion-breaking moment of the season.

Pill does have a lovely singing voice, though. :shrug:
 
A throwaway line. Much like Guinan's explanation about why she looks older. That's like Kirk going "For a time I called myself James Romanos Kirk because I had a falling out with my grandfather".

Not seeing how either line is throwaway. Goldberg is clearly much older than the Guinan character should be given what the audience had been told about her species to date. They explained why. Same thing with Picard seeing an older version of his mom back on TNG. It would've been weird IMO if those two things weren't addressed at all.
 
Not seeing how either line is throwaway. Goldberg is clearly much older than the Guinan character should be given what the audience had been told about her species to date. They explained why. Same thing with Picard seeing an older version of his mom back on TNG. It would've been weird IMO if those two things weren't addressed at all.

Yeah, not a throwaway at all. It’s also pretty consistent with the conceit of what was happening on that old TNG episode (being in a place where inner thoughts manifest).
 
It always amused me that these torpedos have much less explosive power than an atomic bomb from the 1940s.
Do they?
Outside of very few instances we don’t see photon torpedoes used in atmospheres.
The vast majority is in space combat.
We never see atomic bombs used in space combat, I believe?
The vast destruction we are sadly familiar with is a direct result of atmospheric detonation: shockwaves and ignition of the air.
In space most of the energy would just disperse into space while the hard radiation should be easily handled by shields or even the duranium hulls.
Direct hull impacts of photons usually result in total ship destruction or at least heavy damage.
A nuke might actually be absorbed mostly, similar to what a battlestar could do in BSG.
 
A Romulan nuclear warhead is detonated near the Enterprise in "Balance of Terror(TOS)" but we never see human or Federation ships use thermonuclear weapons in combat, just hear stories that they were used by both sides in the Earth-Romulan War.
 
We know the Borg are winners in at least one universe.

We don't know that.
We know that the Borg were 'everwhere' in that universe per Riker's description... but 'everywhere' is a spacious term (especially when used in Trek - remember that the writers have a tendency to use 'galaxy' as opposed to say 'this part of the galaxy' - which is imprecise to say the least).

For all we know, other species in other parts of the galaxy could have ended up banning together and forming a resistance tactic that eventually destroyed the Collective in that universe.
Point is, that was too vague to draw any conclusions of Borg victory... the UFP may have fallen in that universe, but sufficient amount of other species and advanced technology may have been available to defeat the Collective after that point.
 
It's building on the trope that Trek is full of incurable fictional diseases (to replace the real life diseases that the advanced Federation supposedly cured) like irumodic syndrome, Medusan exposure syndrome, etc. Although we're told that Picard's mother "refused treatment", it's clear there's no cure for that either if it needs a continuous treatment and not a one shot dose. Jurati's Borg are somehow going to find people who are terminally ill or have permanent incurable diseases and cure them by assimilating them.

How this is going to work practically I admit was glossed over. I doubt the local hospitals in the galaxy are going to just allow the "friendly neighborhood Borg" to assimilate the patients in their terminally ill/chronic illness wards. Maybe Jurati can assimilate the Diviner over at Prodigy.
Last I checked the so called heroes over at that show left him in some slave mines to rot after brain damaging him in combat.

The way I understood this was not only the sick and the weak will be offered a better life... but those who were REJECTED by large organisations... lonely people for example... people in exile or whatnot.
Someone like Neelix fits the description, if not even the Kazon Ogla (or perhaps species the original Borg rejected because they weren't deemed worthy of assimilation).
These people would be actually offerred a choice.
If you'd gotten the option to live for instance indefinitely, free of any/all diseases, but feel accepted and have a sense of belonging, would you pass it over?
 
The Federation should trick the Borg into Assimilating the Organians?

Sorry.

Do the Organians come from Organia or Organ?
 
She even adopts a more formal and regal way of talking, the polar opposite of the way her younger self spoke in the Kir'shara Arc of ENT. In some ways it's hard to recognize the two as the same character but they are.
 
How is it even remotely possible for the Elnor hologram to have identical memories to the real person?

Especially as it was never established that Federation/Confederation computers of the 25th century have a telepathic component and are able to scan for thoughts and contents of minds.

Have i missed something?
Elnor also spent about 1 whole minute on that ship.
 
She even adopts a more formal and regal way of talking, the polar opposite of the way her younger self spoke in the Kir'shara Arc of ENT. In some ways it's hard to recognize the two as the same character but they are.

If ypou had indefinite life expectancy, or heck, even one that lasted several hundred years, would you behave exactly the same?
I don't think so.
We change patterns of behaviors these days quite quickly... the way we speak, how we carry ourselves, etc... I imagine it might be a bit slower for longer lived species (or not), so, T'Pau could have gone through a number of behavioral changes in the course of 113 years, because to be fair, Vulcan also changed drastically with discovery of Surak's original teachings.
 
Oh, I'm not saying there's no reasons or good ones why it happens. I was just pointing out an example of how characters change the way they sound from time to time. Trek's no stranger to a character suddenly behaving or sounding differently. We shouldn't be appalled when it happens.
 
Elnor also spent about 1 whole minute on that ship.

Considering that UFP computers were capable of extrapolating massive data from a proverbial spec of information... this wouldn't be too surprising.
UFP ships we know come with internal sensors which record everything... its possible/likely Confederation ships were designed in the same capacity.
Even a minute of being onboard a vessel would have provided the computer with huge amounts of data to create a fairly accurate holo extrapolation.
 
Considering that UFP computers were capable of extrapolating massive data from a proverbial spec of information... this wouldn't be too surprising.
UFP ships we know come with internal sensors which record everything... its possible/likely Confederation ships were designed in the same capacity.
Even a minute of being onboard a vessel would have provided the computer with huge amounts of data to create a fairly accurate holo extrapolation.
It's possible it scanned his brainwaves or whatever in that time
 
A Romulan nuclear warhead is detonated near the Enterprise in "Balance of Terror(TOS)" but we never see human or Federation ships use thermonuclear weapons in combat, just hear stories that they were used by both sides in the Earth-Romulan War.
Yes! “One metal-cases object,” indeed.

The Ekosians fired a thermonuclear missile at the Enterprise in “Patterns of Force”; the ship was also threatened by an “archaic” missile spread in FTW…S, but those weren’t necessarily atomic. And, of course, we have the suborbital nuclear platform in “Assignment: Earth”. That’s all I can remember.
 
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