Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x07 - "Monsters"
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Some minor trivia for Admiral Clancy fans: Teresa drops a F-bomb when she tells Rios he can't lock the "pinches puertas" in her clinic. The captions render it as 'goddamned doors' but I know better than that.
Earlier I gave an ep a 9 or 10. I never do that. Probly a 9, but whatever.
This I gave a 4. Shite. Hot mess. I HATE psychodrama/dream/BS. I was educated at a last bastion psych department of Freudianism in the 80s (Go Blue) and … yeah.
Could care less about Picard’s mommy daddy issues. He’s Captain/hero, the protag, movin on, tell a good, ripping yarn, which this show had been.
wow
Couldn’t make a louder clank than this week.
And I was disappointed last week when Soong went from devoted dad to MAD SCIENTIST — “My life’s work!!!”
I was very disappointed in the writers. They could have deconstructed that Trek trope of Soong in a beautiful way.
I digress, as is my way. Anyway, this ep: oof.
This I gave a 4. Shite. Hot mess. I HATE psychodrama/dream/BS. I was educated at a last bastion psych department of Freudianism in the 80s (Go Blue) and … yeah.
Could care less about Picard’s mommy daddy issues. He’s Captain/hero, the protag, movin on, tell a good, ripping yarn, which this show had been.
wow
Couldn’t make a louder clank than this week.
And I was disappointed last week when Soong went from devoted dad to MAD SCIENTIST — “My life’s work!!!”
I was very disappointed in the writers. They could have deconstructed that Trek trope of Soong in a beautiful way.
I digress, as is my way. Anyway, this ep: oof.
That must have been interesting. One of my graduate professors was a Freudian trained counselor.
Q said she's not what she seems, but an imp
Gary must've come from the future cause he is from the 60s and was trained for a long time, IIRC
I remember that the El-Aurians were scattered throughout the galaxy, not that they were assimilated. Perhaps the Borg could only destroy their planets, but not assimilate the people?
And why does summoning a Q involve stupid screaming?
He said he's gonna touch everything, so that includes spleens in boxes and queen corpses with shotgun wounds
Oh, the synth music!
Would you prefer sonic wallpaper?
you're stuck in last week
Archer beamed up the NYC girl as well...
The previous episode was shorter than this episode run time wise.This episode was bizarre. I just realized it has the shortest runtime of the season so far, yet it felt really long while watching it.
Rios beaming Theresa and her kid onto La Serena reminded me of how Alfred let Vicki Vale into the Batcave in Batman '89, neither of which make any sense.
Why would Rios, a Starfleet officer, do something like that? Where are they going with any of this?
I'm still choosing to be optimistic for SNW.
Everyone forgets Captain Christopher it seems. How could a Starfleet officer be so careless?
What ever happened to Star Trek? I asked myself while watching this episode.
Will the person in Charge be called Agent Christopher?
I just watched Timeless again, and I never figured out that was a TOS reference till just now.
Is Sakina Jaffrey busy?
She's been a bit player on Billions and Snowpiercer this year, but both those shows are over.
Its not over yet. Many of us thought the early parts of season 2 were strong. Lets see if they can end on a stronger note. This also feels like due to the way the story has been presented there are many parts that get a grade of "incomplete" as of now. We need to get to the end to see how it all fits (or does not) together.
Seven had unencrypted the systems.
Well, fun fact:
When Patrick Stewart applied for his role in Battlestar Galactica, he feared that they won't take him since they probably felt them as too much connected to the Picard role. Therefore, he applied with a wig and a 30 year younger face, using the pseudonym James Callis.
Nice easter egg that he is using the same pseudonym here again when playing his own father.
PS: Totally unrelated question: Do I have to use irony tags when I am making up fun facts?
Currently airing on Paramount+...
I'll never understand this question. Star Trek is a multi-modal storytelling platform. That is what made TOS and even TNG so special is that each week could look a little bit different. Nowadays, a week is a season, and an episode is a season.
What happened to it? It moved in to the 21st century.
I'm not sure the concept of Borg assimilating entire races and worlds was there yet in BOBW part 1. Guinan simply said the Borg destroyed her world and at that time the Borg were shown to "scoop up" parts of planets and be more interested in technology.
So, I was thinking how much COVID affected this season. It really seems like for the most part the characters stay in 2 people pods. Agnes/Borg Queen, Picard/Talinn, Picard/young guinan, Raffi/Seven. I also heard Jeri say in an interview there was an effort to keep the characters apart and keep them in pods with other actors. I wonder if they had to rework the scripts to keep the characters paired up a certain way. But I've watched lots of TV shows (and movies) that were filmed during the pandemic and they weren't like that.
It was a good but unnecessary episode. Especially with this new arrest subplot.
I liked the stuff inside Picards head and the little bits with Rios and the doc. Could have done without the rest.
Seven and Raffi have felt like totally unnecessary characters ever since they time traveled. In fact, I’ll go as far as to say Seven has been unnecessary all season. Raffi at least had a nice little mentor/mentee story with Elnor.
7/10
I liked the stuff inside Picards head and the little bits with Rios and the doc. Could have done without the rest.
Seven and Raffi have felt like totally unnecessary characters ever since they time traveled. In fact, I’ll go as far as to say Seven has been unnecessary all season. Raffi at least had a nice little mentor/mentee story with Elnor.
7/10
Yup. When I watch Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul, The Expanse, any number of serialized shows out there, we don't know how the story will end but we can still tell whether an episode is strong or not - and even when serialized each episode does have things in it that stand on their own.
This episode didn't even pick up on a lot of the threads from last week. Soong/his Daughter - not in the episode, Q- not in the episode, Agnes-only seen smashing a window. This episode was just a huge detour from where the story had been going to spend time in Picard's brain. It was also kind of silly that him focusing on this trauma prevented him from waking up when he was physically ok. I mean he's been injured a number of times in the past and he never had problems waking up because he was thinking about something from his childhood.
They don't have much time left for actual story then. If 4-7 are the complications, next week will devote some time to the FBI plot, does that just leave 9 and 10 for the story?
Shows a fundamental lack of understanding of trauma on the brain.
Not saying the story is strong or not. Don't know; don't care. Just that people revisiting trauma can impact people at any point in life, not just when they are young. Picard is no exception, at least if he is treated like a real human rather than an avatar of awesomeness or whatever.