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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x07 - "Monsters"

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If they do an Assignment TNG series, with Rios staying behind, and Laris and young Guinan......
Good god, Patrick could sell me on anything. I always loved that scene, moreso nowadays.
 
Pretty confusing episode, the one I enjoyed the least this season.

Just too much stuff crammed into too little time. So Picard’s mother was actually schizophrenic or something similar and killed herself. Or disappeared. Or something. In any case a poor showing for the 24th century society and mental health professionals.

So Talin is actually romulan. While I love how they teased to this reveal in this (great earpiece!) and past episodes, it’s still pretty inconsequential, as her character remains.

Speaking of inconsequential, I don’t think all the evaluation segment was particularly interesting, if not to keep sir Patrick central, perhaps if they did away with it they could have developed the other storylines better.

La sirena’s commands are encrypted, but transporters and replicators work fine. Oook.

Rios’s actions are beyond believable. What the heck is he planning, to bring those two in the future?! The doctor also is notably extremely calm and passive the whole time, I would think she should be quite freaked out by that point.

The Queen plans make sense and Alison was a joy to watch…for the split if a second I thought she would go on stage and sing again when she walked in that bar. Perhaps the Queen’s secret desire has always been to be a famous singer in the 21st century. She should start a band, is “The Queen” taken already?

I still don’t like at all the new guinan and didn’t care much for the El-Aurian/Q backstory (a treaty? With the Q?) but found the evocation really, really awful, it seemed out of an old b-movie.

Really nice twist at the end, though! Did Picard voluntarily drop his communicator?

A 7, leaning towards a 6.
 
How this hidden majority is giving this episode a 9 rating is beyond me. You all are entitled to your opinions and reviews, obviously, but this week I believe the majority are wrong in thinking this was a good episode. I'm not sure why we keep encouraging this sort of standstill pacing and story that seems to go no where and is giving us NO HINT AT ALL about where we're going with the resolution. Sorry, but this was not a coherent story and I'm surprised a lot of you somehow think it is. Please stop.
Ok then.

It has a good beat and it's easy to dance to. I give it a 9. :techman:
 
My only complaint is that the show hasn't dealt enough with Picard's past. The focus on Picard's relationship with his father should've been a larger part of the show. But it seems like there is more to it and that will develop farther since something seemed to have happened to his mother.
by the way, aren’t we forgetting someone? In the whole season there has been no mention of Picard’s brother.
 
Rios’s actions are beyond believable. What the heck is he planning, to bring those two in the future?! The doctor also is notably extremely calm and passive the whole time, I would think she should be quite freaked out by that point.
What little I saw she definitely appeared to be freaking out.
by the way, aren’t we forgetting someone? In the whole season there has been no mention of Picard’s brother.
Probably because he isn't factoring in to Picard's memories at the moment.
 
Like DSC season 4 this season will stand after it is all released.

Until then, cue the rending of garments.

To be honest that’s what I was expecting, so I’m pretty patient with it. I rewatched PIC S1 just before S2 started and was surprised how good it was. Thematically it was very well thought-out, but it clearly benefits from watching it over one week rather than ten.

S2 will be the same. It doesn’t make it any easier waiting weeks for answers, but I have faith that it’ll make sense once we know the pay-off.
 
I think this episode is the primary point for having Talinn. I'm guessing her being related to Gary Seven was added late in the game to create an Easter Egg. As I've pointed out in previous reviews, she's not cut from the same cloth. Her real purpose was to bring Picard out of the coma and, I'm assuming, the device that changes the appearance will be used again.
I was expecting she would become important in this episode, yet…she didn’t. If you had someone else going in Picard’s mind (say seven, who has been really underused since they went into the past) it wouldn’t have changed much imho.

Based on some of the things we're seeing this season, has anyone else floated the idea that Q might somehow be Picard, and that every interaction between the two throughout the life of the series may be some weird form of predestination paradox?
it’s an interesting idea, somewhat similar to the DS9 ending, but I doubt they’ll go this way simply because it would make the already filmed season 3 pretty difficult.

Picard really did go to a Starfleet psychiatrist after not being able to commit to Laris. He then agreed to be hypnotized to figure out what's holding him back and what his darkest fears are.
so an updated version of Distant Voices? Won’t happen, but would be a twist worth of JJ Abrams (but the worse JJ Abrams, the one of the Lost finale).
 
Yeah he dropped it because he didn’t want to be frisked and give future tech to the Feds.
Yeah but with only 2 people in the whole bar you don't think the feds would have a very brief look around the stool the suspect was sitting at and see a super shiny thing just laying on the floor?
 
Yeah but with only 2 people in the whole bar you don't think the feds would have a very brief look around the stool the suspect was sitting at and see a super shiny thing just laying on the floor?
Well it’s either definitely get caught with it in his pocket, or take a chance.
 
What little I saw she definitely appeared to be freaking out.
she said something like “oh my god”, then took the “stabiliser” and fixed whatever was wrong with Picard’s brain like it was a tool she knew how to use, no issue at all, then left her kid play with Rios like nothing unusual was going on.

Yeah he dropped it because he didn’t want to be frisked and give future tech to the Feds.
I think so. But now they have no way to track him if he’s brought away. By the way, anyone remembers about the communicator Rios lost several episodes ago anymore? Also, apparently the queen is *still* carrying hers. Right.
 
she said something like “oh my god”, then took the “stabiliser” and fixed whatever was wrong with Picard’s brain like it was a tool she knew how to use, no issue at all, then left her kid play with Rios like nothing unusual was going on.
Sounds about right.
 
Oh, and Raffi's "We're the main story" nonsense was embarrassing.

I don't think they know what to do with Raffi. The romance with Seven came out of nowhere at the end of last season, and I wouldn't have even considered it romantic until the creators said so. And now, it's like the show doesn't really want to develop their relationship, however at the same time knows the two actresses are good and are trying to create a buddy comedy routine with them to give them something to do, especially Raffi. Though in many respects Seven also seems a bit superfluous. Why did they even need the Borg Queen at all for the slingshot maneuver when they had Seven. Granted she didn't have her Borg parts but it didn't seem like she lost all of her knowledge.

Raffi being the one who cares the most about the Romulan kid also is strange. He was like Picard's surrogate son, but Picard doesn't seem that torn up about his death, if anything he should be the one grieving the hardest. That said, he did drop him like a hot potato for 14 years.

Maybe Raffi's line while meant in jest is also the writers (or Michelle Hurd riffing) on how unimportant both Raffi and Seven are to this season's story so far.
 
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If they do an Assignment TNG series, with Rios staying behind, and Laris and young Guinan......
Its mad looking back how prominent and how "Twin Peaks" the early TNG soundtrack was
 
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Overall I liked this way more than I expected from an inner mind journey.The young Picard bit was predictably crap but the reveal about the father was unexpected (especially considering I was 100% sure this was gonna be about Stewarts real life horrors) also everything involving my new no.1 man crush Rios just has me beaming ear to ear even when he is being a butterfly breeding idiot.
Guinan felt more Guinaney in this episode too and top notch Lower Decks level Easter egg move to get her to do her titty grab defence posture when the guy entered the bar.
Also I know its just the memberberries but GAIUS FRAKING BAAAAAALLLLLLLTTTTTTTAAAAARRRRRR
 
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How this hidden majority is giving this episode a 9 rating is beyond me. You all are entitled to your opinions and reviews, obviously, but this week I believe the majority are wrong in thinking this was a good episode. I'm not sure why we keep encouraging this sort of standstill pacing and story that seems to go no where and is giving us NO HINT AT ALL about where we're going with the resolution. Sorry, but this was not a coherent story and I'm surprised a lot of you somehow think it is. Please stop.
Amazon, and presumably other services, have this concept called lazy raters. There's a very high proportion of people who always give the maximum rating for something when they like it at all. They don't try to distinguish exactly how good it is.

Amazon actually has to incorporate that into their algorithms. I'm sure that's happening here. It's ST, I enjoyed it, it's a 10. Maybe a 9 if they had some hesitations but not a real assessment of where it fits in with the entirety. The problem is that ratings contain reduced information when most people give the highest rating by default.

That's not to say people shouldn't rate how they see fit, but the phenomenon is a known thing.
 
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