To be fair, people have been "trained" by services like Ebay and Airbnb that giving anything less than a perfect rating can have negative consequences.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x07 - "Monsters"
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To be fair, people have been "trained" by services like Ebay and Airbnb that giving anything less than a perfect rating can have negative consequences.
Personally if I see all 10s and 1s I assume something fishy is up and the ratings are about "taking sides". I have been guilty myself for reasons I dont want to drag up again. Personally for something to be a 10 its got to be Yesterdays Enterprise/Sacrifice of Angels level stuff which is rare rare stuff but hey these things are subjective.
Yeah. Coming from a customer service/retail background there is a lot of trepidation around giving lower scores because it reflects badly. I rarely give ratings, and definitely not for TV shows, because I just find it way too uncomfortable.
The frustration is because this was a bunch of wheel spinning that's near the end of the season. It's going to be another rushed ending.
This was not a particularly important episode. It just served as a way to get Picard out of a coma and everything else continued as it has been. The "information" we learned about Picard's past was not particularly enlightening or helpful. It helped him resolve his Daddy issue. So, we're basically back to where we were before.
Perhaps, and that's a big perhaps, when they apparently revisit this storyline, there's something more to it. We shall see. But as of now, it was wheel spinning.
I said last week that they should've added another 10 minutes to last weeks' spectacularly short episode and resolve the Picard coma thing. Combining the two would've made both parts better.
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I honestly try to distinguish how good an episode is compared to the entire set. Which can be difficult.
I'd agree, I very rarely give 10s and those are to the few classics that exist. I almost never give 1s for basically the same reason. Those have to be the worst of the worst, which by definition are rare.
It's that but it's more than that. It's just mentally easier to say I like it, so it's perfect. Many people just don't have the time or inclination to indicate exactly how good.
Some people rate things on the internet just to piss off the people who care about internet ratings.
Not me, no way. Nope. Never. Ok, maybe once or twice. Or more. Probably a lot.
Just call me Monkey Wrench.
Looked to me more like a science division DS9/VOY uniform that hadn’t been through the wash a couple dozen times yet. But yet not quite. With him also having a 2370s/80s comm badge, I’m not quite sure what it was mean to represent.
We have seen Picard’s subconscious imagine random uniforms before though, in S01E01.
Rating things is really difficult. What I do is I get a list of other episodes I've already rated and then compare it against them to find the right place for it. And then I don't actually vote at all in the end.
Even if I were to rate all episodes of the whole Star Trek I would give very few 10s and I can think of a single 1 (Shades of Grey, the only episode with no redeeming quality at all).
I wasn’t sure what it was either…Looked a bit like the confederation uniforms initially, but then I thought it was the new regular one until I realised it isn’t. I guess that Picard is as confused as we are, given that Starfleet has had up to five uniform designs in service at the same time in recent years.
Really great thought! Another example of the anger/rage occurs in First Contact @ "the line must be drawn here!!"
Lily Sloane calls out Picard's motives and makes him explode in rage... "the Borg hurt you, and now you're going to hurt them back. captain ahab has to go hunt his whale. jean-luc, blow up the damn ship!" JL: "NOOOO!!" (and smashes cabinet full of ships)
My frustration with it is that it feels like we're spending excessive time on mysteries that aren't particularly relevant - why Tallin looks like Laris, smoothing over daddy issues that never seemed like that big a deal previously (as opposed to the lost opportunities with Robert, for example) - or where we're getting drip-fed information, while issues that would have actually helped with narrative clarity or character motivation don't seem to be considered interesting enough to garner screen time, like the whole bit with why young Guinan doesn't know Picard needing to be explained outside of the show, better defining Rios' motives for potentially blowing the whole mission twice over, giving us more connective tissue where Raffi and Seven's relationship or Elnor's choice to join Starfleet was concerned, and so on.
It's not just that there doesn't seem to be enough story to fill ten episodes, it's that I disagree with the choices the creative team has made when it comes what to include in the last two or three eps, some of which wound up short anyway, especially as we draw in toward the end of the season. I get that this is Picard's story and Sir Patrick's show, but, like S1, it feels like almost every other character is there in service of the story instead of the other way around. And it makes for hollow viewing when it feels like the folks behind the scenes don't actually care about the stories of most of the other characters, they're just making sure they show up enough to get the actors' names in the credits at some point.
Hoping things pick up again next week, but like I said previously, I'm worried we're going to pay for current choices with another rushed, crowded finale in a few weeks.
It's not just that there doesn't seem to be enough story to fill ten episodes, it's that I disagree with the choices the creative team has made when it comes what to include in the last two or three eps, some of which wound up short anyway, especially as we draw in toward the end of the season. I get that this is Picard's story and Sir Patrick's show, but, like S1, it feels like almost every other character is there in service of the story instead of the other way around. And it makes for hollow viewing when it feels like the folks behind the scenes don't actually care about the stories of most of the other characters, they're just making sure they show up enough to get the actors' names in the credits at some point.
Hoping things pick up again next week, but like I said previously, I'm worried we're going to pay for current choices with another rushed, crowded finale in a few weeks.
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This episode was bizarre. I just realized it has the shortest runtime of the season so far, yet it felt really long while watching it.
Rios beaming Theresa and her kid onto La Serena reminded me of how Alfred let Vicki Vale into the Batcave in Batman '89, neither of which make any sense.
Why would Rios, a Starfleet officer, do something like that? Where are they going with any of this?
I'm still choosing to be optimistic for SNW.
Rios beaming Theresa and her kid onto La Serena reminded me of how Alfred let Vicki Vale into the Batcave in Batman '89, neither of which make any sense.
Why would Rios, a Starfleet officer, do something like that? Where are they going with any of this?
I'm still choosing to be optimistic for SNW.
Mediocre.
This season has gone into a very very strange place. I just wasn't entertained by this one at all. Will we see why this was important later? Hopefully. But I can only judge what I saw this week and that was a boring episode.
I came out of this learning some new things about Picard's past, but nothing about this makes me feel more prepared for what is to come in the next few episodes. I don't have a renewed resolve about how they're going to approach whatever it is they have to do now.
Three weeks in a row now, this series has just felt exceptionally hollow. Where are we going with all of this? What are all of these seemingly unnecessary complications? What do they have to do with one another?
I get really frustrated by Discovery and now Picard raising so many questions along the way and practically refusing to give us any answers until the finale.
This season has gone into a very very strange place. I just wasn't entertained by this one at all. Will we see why this was important later? Hopefully. But I can only judge what I saw this week and that was a boring episode.
I came out of this learning some new things about Picard's past, but nothing about this makes me feel more prepared for what is to come in the next few episodes. I don't have a renewed resolve about how they're going to approach whatever it is they have to do now.
Three weeks in a row now, this series has just felt exceptionally hollow. Where are we going with all of this? What are all of these seemingly unnecessary complications? What do they have to do with one another?
I get really frustrated by Discovery and now Picard raising so many questions along the way and practically refusing to give us any answers until the finale.
Good but starting spin the wheels abit.
Hope next week starts the plot back up. And involes Q. Way to little of him ..
Hope next week starts the plot back up. And involes Q. Way to little of him ..
The IMDB profile of Jane Maggs, the writer of this episode:
Complications is a good word. This season's like a whole chain of complications that's (hopefully) leading up to the actual story.
The IMDB profile of Jane Maggs, the writer of this episode:
And?
Don't see where any of that means she can't write or doesn't have a basic understanding of Picard's character.
And then Rios ceases to exist Back to the Future style because she's his ancestor. That's the real shock ending, not the Borg Queen's identity.