What threads from other Star Trek shows do you want Strange New Worlds to pick up?

[Mike Doyle]

there's no way Flint could have left Earth before the invention of warp drive in 2063.

Khan, The 37s, Gillian Taylor, Isaac Newton, Mark Twain, Maury Ginsberg and I'm sure many others who aren't coming to mind now are humans who left Earth by various means before Warp Drive.

Plenty of other methods where he could of too. Vulcan survey ships as in carbon creek, the Aegis, however Guinan got to Earth, any of these people could pick up on an immortal even if he was concealing it from the rest of technologically limited humanity.

 

[Mudd]

None at all.

 

[BillJ]

None at all.

This. I'd prefer they set up and explore their own threads, not just retread the characters and situations from other shows.

 

[mithril]

• Origins of “No one’s seen a Klingon in 100 years”, when the Federation Klingon Cold War was supposed to begin in the early 2220s (within the 100 year timeframe), the Battle of Donatu V happens in 2245, and Klingons are the reason Burnham was made an orphan. Why so tight lipped about the Klingons?

i've generally figured that the genetic plague that started spreading in ENT "Affliction" and "Divergence" and the Empire's heavyhanded efforts to slow the spread prior to the treatment being distributed (which included blockades and rendering colony worlds uninhabitable via orbital bombardment) caused so much internal disruption that the Klingon Empire internally fractured and all but collapsed. giving T'kuvma's death cult a chance to grab power.
if they touch on klingons, i'd like to see more of the TNG style klingons show up alongside the DIS ones (can be easily explained as just different ethnicity) as well as increasingly the 'naturally' human type changed by the plague. with story lines about how as the empire is rebuilt, they are trying to incorporate all klingons, even those effected by the plague.

• Kzinti & the Treaty of Sirius. It was the first war Earth was involved in, and the Kzinti were the first official hostile specie that Earth encountered, but we know basically nothing about this event and the subsequent fallout.

could be interesting, especially since the dialog in TAS suggests that the earth-kzinti war dated back to when earth was still stuck with warp 2 ships. though i'd not expect much given how far before SNW those events were. but having the Kzinti appear would be neat. (if you really want to do something referencing that old war, perhaps a some kzinti had to cross to a target using high sublight speed due to warp engine damage, resulting in a ship/ships from that era appearing a century later. which the Enterprise is sent to deal with. shades of TNG "the emissary", though how you'd ensure that the Kzinti ship remains a viable threat to the Enterprise could be tricky, given the disparity in firepower and durability seen between the ENT and TOS era in ENT "In a Mirror Darkly part II"

 

[seigezunt]

Jose Tyler's relationship with his brother Ash.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Queen Po and the Xahean people.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I would love to see a return to New Eden/Terralysium. I don't know how the logistics of it could be achieved, how the Enterprise could travel that kind of distance, but Pike's farewell to Jacob had Pike commenting that he wouldn't be surprised if they saw each other again. I would love to see it happen

 

[thribs]

Lorca obviously. About time someone rescued him.
They could have him takeover when Pike leaves

 

[FredH]

Few if any, though I wouldn’t mind seeing aliens from Enterprise here and there, as they’re already doing with an Aenar crewmember.

 

[FederationHistorian]

could be interesting, especially since the dialog in TAS suggests that the earth-kzinti war dated back to when earth was still stuck with warp 2 ships. though i'd not expect much given how far before SNW those events were. but having the Kzinti appear would be neat. (if you really want to do something referencing that old war, perhaps a some kzinti had to cross to a target using high sublight speed due to warp engine damage, resulting in a ship/ships from that era appearing a century later. which the Enterprise is sent to deal with. shades of TNG "the emissary", though how you'd ensure that the Kzinti ship remains a viable threat to the Enterprise could be tricky, given the disparity in firepower and durability seen between the ENT and TOS era in ENT "In a Mirror Darkly part II"

The Kzinti aren’t supposed to pose a threat outside of being very aggressive, and being carnivorous the point of having ate human flesh before, since they are completely disarmed by the Treaty of Sirius. Even in “The Slaver Weapon”, they think that Earth had superior weapons to their own and that’s why they lost, and that conflict was in the mid-to-late 21st century - before humans had lasers and phasers. Meaning the low yield plasma cannons that Earth freighter ships used and were described as “popguns” was as good as it got in those days.

Canon could be bent where the Kzinti police vessels are armed due to how the Kzinti interpreted the treaty. And it could be implied that the Orions chose to secretly arm the Kzinti anyways, explaining why they had phasers. And as the Kzinti dislike herbivores, it can be suggested that they hold Vulcans in greater disdain than humans; particularly if the Vulcans were also the ones that negotiated the Treaty of Sirius on the behalf of Earth. So, they wouldn’t think much of Spock or Sarek, and even less of T’Pau.

But borrowing from “The Emissary” is a good idea, suggesting that they had to use sublight vessels, taking decades or centuries to reach their destination. Maybe their region of space, or territories they control, can only be crossed at various sublight speeds and aren’t warp engine friendly.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The Kzinti aren’t supposed to pose a threat outside of being very aggressive, and being carnivorous the point of having ate human flesh before, since they are completely disarmed by the Treaty of Sirius.

If you've read Niven's Ringworld, you know they're not a threat because their world is occupied by humans, literally to prevent them launching wars they have no hope of winning against the core worlds. They're also trying to train aggression out of them. It's an interesting moral issue I'd love to see Trek tackle.

But I can't see the producers of modern Trek showing the Fed as an occupying force, no matter how necessary it is for the surrounding core systems. And trying to domesticate them is completely against the Prime Directive. But if Taylor the Kzin from Lower Decks is anything to go by, in the 2380's they may well have succeeded...

 

[FederationHistorian]

If you've read Niven's Ringworld, you know they're not a threat because their world is occupied by humans, literally to prevent them launching wars they have no hope of winning against the core worlds. They're also trying to train aggression out of them. It's an interesting moral issue I'd love to see Trek tackle.

But I can't see the producers of modern Trek showing the Fed as an occupying force, no matter how necessary it is for the surrounding core systems. And trying to domesticate them is completely against the Prime Directive. But if Taylor the Kzin from Lower Decks is anything to go by, in the 2380's they may well have succeeded...

Well, pre-Starfleet (i.e 2135), its possible to believe that Earth occupied them. If the conflict took place in the 2060s or 2070s, that’s still the post-atomic horror era. Though that would mean that the Vulcans were okay with having Earth militarily occupy another species for decades. And that in itself is believable, if Kzinti really held disdain for herbivores like the Vulcans, while being respectful towards omnivores like humans.

Maybe after Starfleet is founded, the MACOs are founded around the same time and take over from the Earth forces that were occupying the Kzinti and continued the occupation until the founding for the Federation and the MACOs are merged with Starfleet.

And while the Federation is not an occupying force, I think the rules could be bent for early Federation (2160s -2200), which might be more security minded than anything seen in the TOS era or TNG era. Since aside from monitoring the newly established Neutral Zone and getting a handle on various space crime, that is the era where they transition from have no official Prime Directive to an official Prime Directive. I’m sure the Prime Directive became a generational issue. And continued domestication attempts of Kzinti would be a Prime Directive issue.

 

[ananta]

I want to be surprised and for the show to do new things within the limits of established canon. I’m already wary of the Noonian Khan character—they’d better have a good reason and go a long way to prove that isn’t just plain silly. I actually wish Trek writers would forget Khan existed, especially after the debacle that was STID.
I guess it would be nice to see the beginnings of Chapel’s unrequited love for Spock, although she should be married to Roger Kirby at this point I think(?). I don’t want too much fanwankery though. I want something fresh yet recognisably Trek. And I have high hopes!

 

[DaveyNY]

I guess it would be nice to see the beginnings of Chapel’s unrequited love for Spock, although she should be married to Roger Kirby at this point I think(?)

If I remember correctly, they were only ever engaged, not married.

 

[XCV330]

I'd rather SNW not be a county-fair nostalgia act. There's a buffet of fan trivia stuff on LD and PIC, and still to some degree DISCO. Let SNW be its own thing and not grab the low hanging fruit.

 

[fireproof78]

I feel like it is a little late for that. The execution is huge now in terms of how they utilize all the familiar elements, especially with recent news.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

None at all.

I came here to type these exact three words...

I feel like it is a little late for that. The execution is huge now in terms of how they utilize all the familiar elements, especially with recent news.

But unfortunately this is closer to the actual mark.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Would a prequel to "Arena" work? We have only seen the Gorn a few times but it seems like that was a story that could use a little background, or we just go to the Gorn homeworld.

The "Enterprise" episode, "The Andorian Incident" was originally conceived as "The Gorn Incident", but when Berman and Braga went back to rewatch the episode of TOS, it seemed inescapable that "Arena" was a definite First Contact situation, so they switched the script's premise to Andorians. Shan was born! A real win, in a way, because it was Rick Berman that originally rejected using Andorians in a Tracy Tormé script in TNG, calling them "too hokey" and "of the 60s".

But then-recent miniaturisation of remote control devices meant that movable antennae was a possibility for "Enterprise", and the less-hokey Andorians made their triumphant return to Trek. (A lone Gorn did eventually pop up, too, but only in the Mirror Universe, which was clever.)

Speaking of Andorians, I am hoping we get to explore the Aenar a little, through Mr Hemmer.


Hemmer the Aenar, Strange New Worlds by Ian McLean, on Flickr

There's an implied reference to the Gorn in season 2 of Disco, they are presumably the "alligators on Cestus III" Leland said he was dealing with when he and Pike last met.

And Captain Lorca had a Gorn skeleton in his Ready Room.

 

[Phoenix219]

Lots of great suggestions I've seen already. Here are some I would like to see:
-Incorporating storylines, characters from The Early Voyages comic. If nothing else, whenever the script needs to mention a former crewmember, why not insert one of their names?

-More of "The Cage" Enterprise crew.
-Captain April in live action.
-T'Pol and Soval.
-Sybok: It was a missed opportunity to not have him in DISCO's second season.
-Alexander Marcus Prime.
-Nogura, Morrow, Stone, Lori Ciana, Sonak, Matt & Willard Decker, Richard Daystrom.
-A Dax.
-Using what Trek lit. has already established to flesh out the Andorians, but also the Klingons. It would be great to canonize HemQuch and QuchHa'.
-Also would like to see the Kelvin Klingon design thrown in with the TOS, Motion Picture, TNG, and DISCO Klingons.
-Chang
-Like to see, or see more of, these species: Sheliak, Tholians, Nausicaans, Caitians, Edoans, Kzinti, Xindi, Suliban, Kinshaya, Tzenkethi, Kelvin alternate reality species, like Keenser.
-Starfleet Marines
-Starfleet Corps of Engineers

Yes, this, all of this. Plus the TAS aliens, and a Kelvin class ship. NX era ships as private vessels, freighters, mauraders, etc.

Needs some Mitchell and Kelso, as well. Guest appearance by Boyce, Lt. Colt, Jose Tyler. Its small universe, but a connection to Ash would be nice.

Someone else mentioned how similar to a TOS Klingon Ash is - maybe they were all driven underground, until Ash leads them back to glory. He's not an Augment, but they might not know that. He convinces the Empire of their worth, and that hiding is shameful.

Sybok needs a connection to Sevrin from "The Way to Eden"

 

[ichab]

None. The title of the show insinuates exploring new worlds and frontiers. I don't care about characters from the other shows (If I did I'd be watching them.)I darn sure don't want them to pull an Enterprise and start shoehorning in things that shouldn't be there like Ferengi or Borg.