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Spoilers The NCC-82893 Thread

The dialogue is so hilariously frustrating when it comes to figuring out what means what. I choose to take this as, 'a new class of Borg-i-fied ships' and not specifically a new named class of ship design.

Kind of like how the Defiant was a new class of ship (the Defiant class) and also a new class (umbrella term) of Starfleet vessels intended for kicking ass.

That's the thing. I don't need a 5 minute exposition on the ship, just better chosen dialog.

"A new type (or testbed) of ship, incorporating Borg technology from the artifact".
 
have we ever in onscreen canon seen a ship with the same name as the class?

Many times:

USS Constitution (NCC-1700)
USS Constellation (NCC-1974)
USS Defiant (NX-74205)
USS Excelsior (NCC-2000)
USS Galaxy (NCC-70637)
USS Intrepid (NCC-74600)
USS Oberth (NCC-602)

Of course there must be others, but these spring to mind right away.
 
That's the thing. I don't need a 5 minute exposition on the ship, just better chosen dialog.

"A new type (or testbed) of ship, incorporating Borg technology from the artifact".

Oh, don't get me wrong I totally agree. Part of me feels like these choices were deliberate so we would all be forced to have this conversation. Everything they say is phrased in just such a way to keep it ill defined.
 
Hand on, wasn’t the Constellation a Constitution class?
Both.
Oh, don't get me wrong I totally agree. Part of me feels like these choices were deliberate so we would all be forced to have this conversation. Everything they say is phrased in just such a way to keep it ill defined.
Makes sense. This is from writers who grew up with Bill Clinton redefining words.
 
Hand on, wasn’t the Constellation a Constitution class?

Different Constellations.

The one from TOS (NCC-1017) was indeed a Constitution-class ship. At least it looked like one.

Years later - in service by the time of ST VI - there was a new Constellation (NCC-1974) which was the first of its class.
 
Many times:

USS Constitution (NCC-1700)
USS Constellation (NCC-1974)
USS Defiant (NX-74205)
USS Excelsior (NCC-2000)
USS Galaxy (NCC-70637)
USS Intrepid (NCC-74600)
USS Oberth (NCC-602)

Of course there must be others, but these spring to mind right away.

Did we see all those actual ships, or the registries on a board? I know the Galaxy was supposed to be in a couple DS9 battles, but none of those ships had Reg#'s.
 
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Then the class name is meaningless. :shrug:

Not necessarily. The Royal Navy has a tradition of sometimes naming a class after a common theme rather than the lead ship of that class. For example, the Duke class frigates are all named after historic British dukedoms – Argyll, Lancaster, Northumberland, Westminster etc – but there is no HMS Duke. Or the River class of offshore patrol ships, which are all named after British rivers – Tyne, Severn, Mersey, Trent etc – but there is no HMS River.

We already have a candidate for a similar naming system for at least one Starfleet class – the California class. We know they're all named for Californian cities – Cerritos, Merced, Rubidoux, Solvang etc – but there could conceivably be no actual USS California as a result.
 
Not necessarily. The Royal Navy has a tradition of sometimes naming a class after a common theme rather than the lead ship of that class. For example, the Duke class frigates are all named after historic British dukedoms – Argyll, Lancaster, Northumberland, Westminster etc – but there is no HMS Duke. Or the River class of offshore patrol ships, which are all named after British rivers – Tyne, Severn, Mersey, Trent etc – but there is no HMS River.

We already have a candidate for a similar naming system for at least one Starfleet class – the California class. We know they're all named for Californian cities – Cerritos, Merced, Rubidoux, Solvang etc – but there could conceivably be no actual USS California as a result.

It seems that "Type 23" was technically the class name for those Frigates. So unless there's an HMS 23, it's definitely an example of the rare side of ship naming.
 
Not necessarily. The Royal Navy has a tradition of sometimes naming a class after a common theme rather than the lead
Canadian navy used to be the same way. They are still themed today, but they have a class name now.
 
This is cool ...
(made by Geoffrey Mandel per Dave Blass Tweet)
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Nice
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I like the angle of the nacelles ^ the lower pitched further back than the upper \. Makes it a bit more aggressive.
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This ^ "digital blue print" seemed to show them almost flush, they are not it's just a slight distortion.
This capture better confirmed the \ angle.
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A couple more kewl images from Bill Krause on Twitter.
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Nice!
Also models confirm how much the new NCC-82893 has the lower nacelles pitched further back than the upper (hence the supports).

So how much pre-existed about the 23rd century Radiant Class?
Or was it just entirely made up for the model display?
Ready room.. Model gallery of apparently three gens of Stargazers
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We already have a candidate for a similar naming system for at least one Starfleet class – the California class. We know they're all named for Californian cities – Cerritos, Merced, Rubidoux, Solvang etc – but there could conceivably be no actual USS California as a result.

Most of the Sovereign class vessels were named after sovereigns (Pachacuti, Gilgamesh, Hutchinson, Hrothgar, Arsinoe) but not all of them (Okuda, Valkyrie, Venture, Enterprise). So just because all the Californias were named after cities so far, doesn't mean there isn't a USS California.
 
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