If one doesn't agree with the partner's definition of "cheating", s/he can break up. Simple. If someone is really convinced that having a on orgy with 10 Swedish supermodels is not "cheating", it's useless talking about trust and whatever.
Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2
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People aren't simple. Emotions aren't simple. So relationships shouldn't be simple. And problems should be talked out and understood rather than defaulting to kneejerk ultimatums.
Which is a gigantic straw man having nothing to do with the nuanced issue under discussion. I consider inventing straw men to be rhetorical cheating.
Yeah, but they weren't related (in the show).
It’s more the fact that welling was playing a character that should have been 10 years younger than him
If any teenager has an excuse for looking 10 years more mature than his peers, it's Clark Kent...
*crosses fingers*
Set photos have revealed
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Was Sarah wearing a season 9 Blur t shirt at the start?
It’s a pretty good episode. Wasn’t actually expecting the two stories to connect but I suppose it makes sense. I wonder if we will see this “bizarre” world at some point. I would love to see a bizarre Flash and Arrow.
Also, while I’m really enjoying the show I wish we got some one-off episodes, featuring some other Superman villains. Not every episode needs to be about this major threat.
It’s a pretty good episode. Wasn’t actually expecting the two stories to connect but I suppose it makes sense. I wonder if we will see this “bizarre” world at some point. I would love to see a bizarre Flash and Arrow.
Also, while I’m really enjoying the show I wish we got some one-off episodes, featuring some other Superman villains. Not every episode needs to be about this major threat.
Superman and Lois
Season 2 - Episode 5 - "Girl...You'll Be A Woman Soon"
Clark/SM: I suppose SM constantly being stonewalled by Anderson will convince him that he--ironically like Anderson--will need to enlist young help (re: the leaked photos-- SEE NOTES). In the meantime, with SM dropping Bizarro off at the fortress for analysis, and learning that he's from a world at war (where have we heard that before?), the time has come for the series to place SM in a position where he cannot talk or reason his way out of every grave situation, or wait for enemies to trip themselves up in some way. Bizarro has warned SM that he will lose all he cares for, so when the Ascension clan comes a-callin', SM will need to ask himself if his family justifies taking off the kid gloves with uncompromising threats.
Lois / Chrissy & Ally's cult: So, Ally's "Ascension" pendant is the gateway to the Bizarro world--one where she (or her counterpart). At present, it appears he murdered Dr. Faulkner because she was this earth's version of someone he fought (tied to Ally).
Eh. Circumstances got Lois off of the hook for being secretive / not understanding Chrissy's feelings. That's a plot point that is unresolved.
Sam Lane / Anderson / "Supermen of America" (Tag)/ Irons & Natalie: Anderson is so driven in his anti-SM / meta army-builder mission, which makes me believe he will turn on Tag, who is still that good kid from Smallville, more than a soldier--or buying the SM propaganda.
Sam Lane / Jordan / Jonathan / Candace: Rather predictable that Jonathan would feel he was the odd man out, triggering him to take the "Yellow Mist" drug to "stay in the game"--with jealousy rearing its head ("you're training the wrong kid"). Theoretically, Jonathan--being half Kryptonian--would be able to weather the use of "Yellow Mist" more than ordinary humans, and now that set leaks show us his upcoming plot, I hope it does not skip over the consequences (he should face with his parents) over using the drug. Then again, he might leap into the field and pay a price similar to Tag or Irons....
Jordan/Sarah: No relationship drama...this week...
Lana/Kyle/Sarah: So, Sarah's quinceañera (i.e. considered moving from childhood to womanhood when a girl turns 15,as observed by some Latinos), finally happened, but S&L being S&L, it could not go off without the soap opera business--meaning Kyle. Now that his affair with Tonya Martinez is out in the open, Kyle's story seems like its moving in the direction of his season one arc--being vulnerable and tailor-made for manipulation by...
NOTES:
Yeah, yeah, the episode title was borrowed from Neil Diamond's 1967 hit in referring to Sarah's quinceañera.
Thanks to the leaked photos of Jonathan looking like a slightly modified version of Kon-El (1990's DC was so awful with few exceptions), one can suspect that Jordan--who was once distinct from his brother by being the only Kent child to inherit his father's powers--will feel sidelined, even after receiving training from Sam. I just hope Jonathan does not adopt some Anakin Skywalker-like attitude (asshole), where he's constantly overestimating his abilities.
GRADE: B.
Season 2 - Episode 5 - "Girl...You'll Be A Woman Soon"
Clark/SM: I suppose SM constantly being stonewalled by Anderson will convince him that he--ironically like Anderson--will need to enlist young help (re: the leaked photos-- SEE NOTES). In the meantime, with SM dropping Bizarro off at the fortress for analysis, and learning that he's from a world at war (where have we heard that before?), the time has come for the series to place SM in a position where he cannot talk or reason his way out of every grave situation, or wait for enemies to trip themselves up in some way. Bizarro has warned SM that he will lose all he cares for, so when the Ascension clan comes a-callin', SM will need to ask himself if his family justifies taking off the kid gloves with uncompromising threats.
Lois / Chrissy & Ally's cult: So, Ally's "Ascension" pendant is the gateway to the Bizarro world--one where she (or her counterpart). At present, it appears he murdered Dr. Faulkner because she was this earth's version of someone he fought (tied to Ally).
Eh. Circumstances got Lois off of the hook for being secretive / not understanding Chrissy's feelings. That's a plot point that is unresolved.
Sam Lane / Anderson / "Supermen of America" (Tag)/ Irons & Natalie: Anderson is so driven in his anti-SM / meta army-builder mission, which makes me believe he will turn on Tag, who is still that good kid from Smallville, more than a soldier--or buying the SM propaganda.
Sam Lane / Jordan / Jonathan / Candace: Rather predictable that Jonathan would feel he was the odd man out, triggering him to take the "Yellow Mist" drug to "stay in the game"--with jealousy rearing its head ("you're training the wrong kid"). Theoretically, Jonathan--being half Kryptonian--would be able to weather the use of "Yellow Mist" more than ordinary humans, and now that set leaks show us his upcoming plot, I hope it does not skip over the consequences (he should face with his parents) over using the drug. Then again, he might leap into the field and pay a price similar to Tag or Irons....
Jordan/Sarah: No relationship drama...this week...
Lana/Kyle/Sarah: So, Sarah's quinceañera (i.e. considered moving from childhood to womanhood when a girl turns 15,as observed by some Latinos), finally happened, but S&L being S&L, it could not go off without the soap opera business--meaning Kyle. Now that his affair with Tonya Martinez is out in the open, Kyle's story seems like its moving in the direction of his season one arc--being vulnerable and tailor-made for manipulation by...
NOTES:
Yeah, yeah, the episode title was borrowed from Neil Diamond's 1967 hit in referring to Sarah's quinceañera.
Thanks to the leaked photos of Jonathan looking like a slightly modified version of Kon-El (1990's DC was so awful with few exceptions), one can suspect that Jordan--who was once distinct from his brother by being the only Kent child to inherit his father's powers--will feel sidelined, even after receiving training from Sam. I just hope Jonathan does not adopt some Anakin Skywalker-like attitude (asshole), where he's constantly overestimating his abilities.
GRADE: B.
Good episode and like Thribs, i did not expect both storylines to be connected. I also liked the little twist that giving Chrissy her spiritual experience would actually turn her against Ally.
The original Superman movies from the 70’s. Smallville also used them
I would have liked for Bizarro to be clean-shaven.
That Anderson really makes my skin crawl. Kudos to that actor who I'm assuming usually comes across as a decent guy.
I wasn't really feeling the whole quincenara(sp?), it's ok as a plot point but I don't think they've done enough to get "feels" from it. Though I liked Jonathan already manifesting powers and moving that along. Alright episode but a little heavy on the slow burn.
That Anderson really makes my skin crawl. Kudos to that actor who I'm assuming usually comes across as a decent guy.
I wasn't really feeling the whole quincenara(sp?), it's ok as a plot point but I don't think they've done enough to get "feels" from it. Though I liked Jonathan already manifesting powers and moving that along. Alright episode but a little heavy on the slow burn.
It felt like a bit of a push for Lois to jump to connecting Ally's Shadow World and Bizarro's (implicit) Bizarro-World as the same thing (what, did she see the flashback in the teaser, too?), even with her later statement that she doesn't believe in coincidences, but they proved the connection conclusively enough as the episode went on that I can forgive Lois being implausibly genre-savvy and instinctively knowing that, as a character on a TV show, only so many unrelated things can be happening to her family at once.
This has been a nit I've wanted to pick for a while, and it happens a lot in Superman stories, but I really wish Clark had a consistent, distinct way of referring to Earth-Mom and Earth-Dad versus Space-Mom and Space-Dad. When he just refers to the Jor-El and Lara holograms as "Dad" and "Mom," it feels like he's minimizing the Kents, who you'd expect him to be a lot closer to emotionally. Like "Mom" versus "Mother" would be fine. Or calling his space-parents by their names would be even better.
This has been a nit I've wanted to pick for a while, and it happens a lot in Superman stories, but I really wish Clark had a consistent, distinct way of referring to Earth-Mom and Earth-Dad versus Space-Mom and Space-Dad. When he just refers to the Jor-El and Lara holograms as "Dad" and "Mom," it feels like he's minimizing the Kents, who you'd expect him to be a lot closer to emotionally. Like "Mom" versus "Mother" would be fine. Or calling his space-parents by their names would be even better.
Ahh, they finally explained why a Latinx family is named Cushing -- and they've changed it to Cortez now. I wonder why they used Cushing to begin with, in that case, seeing as how it isn't from the comics.
It's weird that this is the second season in a row with an arc based on a parallel-universe Superman. If they wanted to go there, why not make it the evil Superman from John Henry's world instead of Bizarro? And it's a huge coincidence that the evil mastermind behind the Bizarro plot just happens to be the cult leader behind Lois & Lucy's plot.
I'm also not happy about the direction they're taking Jon. I liked him last season because he was fundamentally a good guy and a good brother beneath his bluster and insecurity, but now he's just some dumb teenager letting his ego get him hooked on drugs.
It's from Superman: The Movie, the rotating rings that Zod, Non, and Ursa were confined in when Jor-El sentenced them to the Phantom Zone. I think they reused them in Superman II. That wasn't even a visual effect, just a clever optical illusion -- two rings welded together at an angle and rotated so that it looked like they were "rolling" on top of each other.
I would've liked for Clark/Superman to be clean-shaven.
He was terrific as young Hercules in Hercules: The Legendary Journeys back in the day. This is the first time I've seen him since, though I gather he had a prominent role in the Teen Wolf TV series.
He's manifesting powers because of the X-kryptonite drug he's inhaling. He's just lying to Jordan that it's his powers naturally coming in.
I don't see it that way. It's her job as a reporter to seek connections, and Ally's rhetoric about people's "other selves" in an alternate world resonated with the existence of a duplicate Superman. She didn't "know," she formulated a hypothesis, investigated it, and discovered that it was correct. If the evidence hadn't supported it, she would have rejected it and sought a different hypothesis. That's how figuring things out works.
Unnecessary here, since Martha Kent is deceased and has no holo-duplicate. So when Clark says "Mom is helping me" in the present tense, there's no ambiguity about which mother he means, and thus no need to differentiate them.
It's weird that this is the second season in a row with an arc based on a parallel-universe Superman. If they wanted to go there, why not make it the evil Superman from John Henry's world instead of Bizarro? And it's a huge coincidence that the evil mastermind behind the Bizarro plot just happens to be the cult leader behind Lois & Lucy's plot.
I'm also not happy about the direction they're taking Jon. I liked him last season because he was fundamentally a good guy and a good brother beneath his bluster and insecurity, but now he's just some dumb teenager letting his ego get him hooked on drugs.
It's from Superman: The Movie, the rotating rings that Zod, Non, and Ursa were confined in when Jor-El sentenced them to the Phantom Zone. I think they reused them in Superman II. That wasn't even a visual effect, just a clever optical illusion -- two rings welded together at an angle and rotated so that it looked like they were "rolling" on top of each other.
I would've liked for Clark/Superman to be clean-shaven.
He was terrific as young Hercules in Hercules: The Legendary Journeys back in the day. This is the first time I've seen him since, though I gather he had a prominent role in the Teen Wolf TV series.
He's manifesting powers because of the X-kryptonite drug he's inhaling. He's just lying to Jordan that it's his powers naturally coming in.
I don't see it that way. It's her job as a reporter to seek connections, and Ally's rhetoric about people's "other selves" in an alternate world resonated with the existence of a duplicate Superman. She didn't "know," she formulated a hypothesis, investigated it, and discovered that it was correct. If the evidence hadn't supported it, she would have rejected it and sought a different hypothesis. That's how figuring things out works.
Unnecessary here, since Martha Kent is deceased and has no holo-duplicate. So when Clark says "Mom is helping me" in the present tense, there's no ambiguity about which mother he means, and thus no need to differentiate them.
I have a personal situation where my mother refers to two sets of people as "Mom" and "Dad" (and not because of divorce, it's a long story) and it can indeed be confusing at times figuring out who she means.
Man, take a short break and my brain is like a sieve, I had forgotten about that whole angle which makes his aggressive behavior make more sense. duh Have they actually shown him taking it, I don't remember that just the stuff with the team member.
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