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What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)


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I don't think it's reasonable at all. Nobody has the right to "personal choice" when it comes to endangering other people. That's why we don't give people the choice to drive drunk. Because it's not about them, it's about the other people their negligence could hurt. When it's a matter of public health and safety, it's a fundamental category error to treat it as a matter of individual choice. There are many laws in place that prohibit people from doing things dangerous to others, or that require them to do things that protect others. And there have been many vaccine mandates in American history. If we lived in sane times, we'd have had a mandate for months now and COVID would be almost over.
I completely understand your position. I’m triple jabbed and my daughter’s jabbed too, and I think anyone who thinks vaccine conspiracies are true is nuts. And I’ll avoid them if I know they’re of those beliefs.

But I can understand if they do believe that nonsense and don’t want to get jabbed (I honestly believe half of it is a needle phobia in some) that’s fine. Where I draw the line is when they think their choice should be consequence free or they’re being persecuted if they’re not allowed in somewhere which requires a covid pass for entry.

You want the choice? Fine. But, don’t act like you don’t have the choice (because they do act like that, even tho they do), that’s a fallacy and don’t act as if your choice shouldn’t have consequences for you.
 
I understand why other people don't get vaccinated. I have a severe phobia of needles yet I still got my shoots + boaster. What is scary is that as long as not everyone is vaccinated then it is only a matter of time before a variant comes along that the vaccines will not work on that is much more server. Then everyone is in danger.
 
To be clear, "franchise" was Deadline's word choice. Gunn only says it's the end of "this team."

I'm not terribly surprised. I think it was clear, even before Gunn's brief firing, that he was only ever going to do a trilogy and move on, and undoubtedly the focus of the Guardians would change after that. Whether we'll see any of these characters again is another matter, but I'm wouldn't be surprised if this is the last time we see them together as a team.
 
Pretty sure Dave Bautista has already said he's done playing Drax after this one anyway (he's getting too old to be keeping his body in that shape and run around all shirtless), so even if everyone else sticks around, yeah; by definition this version of the team is basically done.

There may be other GotG movies or shows with a different roster, the existing characters may be shunted off into other titles like Captain Marvel, Thor, Eternals, or some-such, or a little of both.
 
Not sure where to put this without resurrecting a zombified thread so I am bringing it up here:

I just watched the Black Mirror episode with Hayley Atwell called "Be Right Back". It is an incredible acting performance on Atwell's part, emotional and nuanced. So much more than what I've seen from her in the MCU. A brilliant episode of the Black Mirror series as well. It left me shaken.
 
Just to be nitpicky, wouldn't Spider-Man count, now that the first five movies have been retroactively incorporated into the MCU multiverse?

If you're going to be nitpicky, then that's three separate characters who all happen to be Spider-man. Two of them got three movies and one only got two. But Holland will definitely pass Thor's number by himself soon enough.
 
Yeah, the Maguire and Garfield versions don't count for me since they're different versions of the character.

I guess that to me, the word "character" is an artistic label, referring to the role itself rather than any single interpretation of it. As you say, they're different versions of the character, singular. Certainly in terms of intellectual property, every incarnation of Peter Parker/Spider-Man is legally the same character.
 
Channing Tatum was devastated his Gambit movie didn't take of

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/channing-tatum-gambit-xmen-superhero-disney-1235169432/


Tatum was devastated when the movie fell apart. “Once ‘Gambit’ went away, I was so traumatized,” Tatum says, adding that he swore off watching the Avengers. “I shut off my Marvel machine. I haven’t been able to see any of the movies. I loved that character. It was just too sad. It was like losing a friend because I was so ready to play him.”
 
Tatum is very not suited to the role of Gambit. I like his work, but I can’t see him as Remy. Maybe I’m too attached to the animated cartoon version.
 
I mean, its nice that he had so much passion, but he would have been an awful Gambit. He's not a good actor to begin with, and the idea that he might have attempted a cajun accent is horrifying to think about.
 
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