Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x10 - "A Moral Star, Part 2"

[Paul755]

Very good episode. I dunno about the ticking time bomb left on the Protostar but it’s a minor nitpick.

If they did leave the Diviner on the planet, what’s to say all his little worker robots wouldn’t be taking care of him. It’s not like he could direct them to do anything evil.

 

[ToddCam]

That is a reasonable idea.

 

[NCC-73515]

Don't forget about these guys.

2380

That's Division whatever, not regular SF

 

[AnimationAdmiral]

I’m not sure they ever said they were leaving the Diviner without food or supplies. It was a fully functional mining facility capable of accommodating hundreds of people, and it was literally the Diviner’s home for decades. They left him at home, just without a ship.

 

[dupersuper]

This also explains why the 'alternate future' badge was in the Kobayashi Maru simulation - it was the primary badge at the time!

Isn't the first one from 2379? And as others noted, the middle is technically from 2384.

I feel kinda bad about the Diviner. He was single-minded, and fanatical, but his goal was to save his people. And they left him in Tars Lamora? By himself? Is there even food there?

Yeah: I'm sure they didn't just leave him to die, but you'd never know that from this ending.

How many Solums has Star Fleet left in its wake? We don’t know the circumstances of the First Contact but, presumably, the crew of the Protostar saw a warp capable, advanced civilization, made contact and then left. A world that had believed itself alone in the universe then tore itself apart with a civil war, probably over some toxic combination of religious and social unrest triggered by Star Fleet’s drive by. The seeds of the conflict were always there, but Star Fleet lit the match. Star Fleet ships pay a visit and then take off and don’t return to see what happens to the worlds they changed.

They need to get a protostar drive installed on the Cerritos so they can handle second contact in the delta quadrant...

I’m not sure they ever said they were leaving the Diviner without food or supplies. It was a fully functional mining facility capable of accommodating hundreds of people, and it was literally the Diviner’s home for decades. They left him at home, just without a ship.

...and with madness...?

 

[AnimationAdmiral]

Yeah: I'm sure they didn't just leave him to die, but you'd never know that from this ending.

...and with madness...?

The “madness” is pretty vaguely defined. In no way do they imply it prevents him from eating, taking care of himself or living out his days; it might have curbed his murderous and megalomaniacal tendencies with a clean slate, like certain therapies can jolt someone out of depression. We literally don’t know. All we know is the kids left him behind on the mining colony he built and previously lived on… which doesn’t seem that harsh a sentence for someone who literally tried to commit murder and genocide multiple times.

 

[NCC-73515]

Isn't the first one from 2379? And as others noted, the middle is technically from 2384.

The point is to show that the FC and LDS uniforms and badges coexisted in the same year.
The Dauntless year was revealed after the episode came out.

 

[dupersuper]

The point is to show that the FC and LDS uniforms and badges coexisted in the same year.

But how do we know? I've only seen them in 2379.

 

[Seven of Five]

I really enjoyed that. The Admiral Janeway cameo was fun.

The building tension through the episode was nicely executed. These characters have come so far since their rough early days.

I'm so happy that the Caitian made it out alright.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I’m not sure they ever said they were leaving the Diviner without food or supplies. It was a fully functional mining facility capable of accommodating hundreds of people, and it was literally the Diviner’s home for decades. They left him at home, just without a ship.

Yeah, he's essentially under house arrest. He's just drawing in the dirt instead of staying inside.

 

[NCC-73515]

But how do we know? I've only seen them in 2379.

They appear in several episodes of LDS

 

[NCC-73515]

 

[jackoverfull]

About the Picard flashback uniforms, their first use is not in 2385, but in 2381, as seen in the photo of admiral Picard holding the newborn son on riker and troi.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The “madness” is pretty vaguely defined. In no way do they imply it prevents him from eating, taking care of himself or living out his days

Then again, look what it did to Dr. Marvick in "Is There In Truth No Beauty?". Did he look like somebody who could take care of himself?

If Diviner turns out to actually have been left in an asteroid all alone with no provisions suffering from Medusan madness, I will be pretty disgusted, and wonder how the kids came to think that was a good idea. Rok doesn't seem to be capable of such heartlessness, for one, I think the Janeway hologram would probably have an issue with it, and they would have to keep it a secret from Gwyn. Even if she hates him, she still has a kind of love for him, and I can't imagine she would be ok with him left to suffer and die, no matter his crimes.

Indeed. Medusan madness drove Dr. Marvick so insane that he ended up killing himself. Is that what the kids hoped the Diviner would eventually do?

I’m not sure they ever said they were leaving the Diviner without food or supplies. It was a fully functional mining facility capable of accommodating hundreds of people,

But remember, the Diviner blew up the mining facility's power supply (in part 1). So is there any food or air left for him? The kids had to remember that the Diviner cut the power...did they think he deserved to starve and/or suffocate because of that?

what’s to say all his little worker robots wouldn’t be taking care of him. It’s not like he could direct them to do anything evil.

Assuming there is any power left for the robots...what's to say they wouldn't refuse to help him?

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Where is that from???

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Where is that from???

‪‪I believe it’s shots of the fake Dauntless from VOY S04E26 Hope and Fear, compared to images of the new real deal from this episode.

 

[thribs]

I would have used the Aventine. Get another novel ship introduced. Plus it has that history with it being the first slipstream Starfleet vessel

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

‪‪I believe it’s shots of the fake Dauntless from VOY S04E26 Hope and Fear, compared to images of the new real deal from this episode.

Thanks, I turned it off right before that scene thinking it was over. Ai yi yi

 

[JoaquinSlowly]

Thanks, I turned it off right before that scene thinking it was over. Ai yi yi

You’re welcome, that’s a final scene I wouldn’t have wanted to miss!

 

[Deks]

I would have used the Aventine. Get another novel ship introduced. Plus it has that history with it being the first slipstream Starfleet vessel

The Aventine has no official history in canon as we know it. Only in the lit-verse was it used as a dedicated platform for development of Slipstream (and technically speaking Voyager was the first that used the said technology - if with only partial success).

Starfleet making its own USS Dauntless actually makes more sense because VOY took detailed scans of the fake Dauntless which was already a dedicated design for Slipstream itself - and it ties into us seeing the Dauntless at the battle of Procyon V in the UFP 26th century alternate timeline from ENTERPRISE.

There's no reason to think SF wouldn't have built the Dauntless either way.

I wouldn't have 'minded' them developing and using the Aventine in the official canon, but to be fair, there's still time to introduce it as another Slipstream dedicated platform right along the Dauntless.