The Ahsoka series is coming.

[Jayson1]

I don't have any issue with Winstead playing this Aphra character I have never heard of before. All you need to do is cast someone Asian in another important role. People I think sometimes have limited imaginations as to what you can do when embracing diversity. Representation is important and representation in important roles as well and not just token characters but tv shows have many important characters usually.

 

[Xerxes82]

I don't have any issue with Winstead playing this Aphra character I have never heard of before. All you need to do is cast someone Asian in another important role. People I think sometimes have limited imaginations as to what you can do when embracing diversity. Representation is important and representation in important roles as well and not just token characters but tv shows have many important characters usually.

To borrow a metaphor from the Star Trek universe, this argument is a bit like saying that if we did a Young Sisko project, it would totally be ok to make Sisko white, just so long as there is another character in the show who is black.

Nothing personal, but that's really not how this works.

 

[Tuskin38]

I don't have any issue with Winstead playing this Aphra character I have never heard of before. All you need to do is cast someone Asian in another important role. People I think sometimes have limited imaginations as to what you can do when embracing diversity. Representation is important and representation in important roles as well and not just token characters but tv shows have many important characters usually.

Please re-read what you fucking wrote and pretend someone else said it.

This looks really fucking bad and racist.

 

[Jayson1]

To borrow a metaphor from the Star Trek universe, this argument is a bit like saying that if we did a Young Sisko project, it would totally be ok to make Sisko white, just so long as there is another character in the show who is black.

Nothing personal, but that's really not how this works.

The difference is Sisko is established in canon and was the star of a whole series. This new character will be important but I assume she is part of a ensemble and a new character to canon. A better example would have been if Randall Park's character in Ant Man 2 had been cast as a Latino women lets say and Randall Park instead got the Walton Goggins role or Lawrence Fishburne role. You still got the representation it's just in a slightly different package. You got a whole lot of options you can go when it comes to casting. As long as you are still embracing representation it doesn't matter always in every specific case as long as more diversity is still happening overall.

 

[Tuskin38]

The difference is Sisko is established in canon and was the star of a whole series.

Aphra is established in the Star Wars canon (the comics are canon) and has her own comic series.

 

[Jayson1]

I thought the books and stuff were de-canonized? They now sometimes pick and choose stuff from the old stuff but it's not locked in like Clone Wars and Rebels.

 

[Tuskin38]

I thought the books and stuff were de-canonized? They now sometimes pick and choose stuff from the old stuff but it's not locked in like Clone Wars and Rebels.

She's from the new comics, not the pre-disney ones.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Doctor_Aphra
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chelli_Lona_Aphra

Everything post-Disney is canon unless otherwise specified (I.e The Lego shows/specials)

 

[Campe]

The difference is Sisko is established in canon and was the star of a whole series. This new character will be important but I assume she is part of a ensemble and a new character to canon. A better example would have been if Randall Park's character in Ant Man 2 had been cast as a Latino women lets say and Randall Park instead got the Walton Goggins role or Lawrence Fishburne role. You still got the representation it's just in a slightly different package. You got a whole lot of options you can go when it comes to casting. As long as you are still embracing representation it doesn't matter always in every specific case as long as more diversity is still happening overall.

Stop. Just stop. You’re not doing yourself any favors here, Jason.

 

[Jayson1]

She's from the new comics, not the pre-disney ones.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Doctor_Aphra
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chelli_Lona_Aphra

Everything post-Disney is canon unless otherwise specified (I.e The Lego shows/specials)

I guess I can see how people might be more into this if I was reading the comics. This is the first time I even heard of the character so she feels like me just another character in the cast. I usually follow things from the shows or movies but no so much the books and comics so feel they have more leeway when it comes to those things.

 

[Tuskin38]

It could be worse. There was a near-human species in the EU that had a name that was likely named after the epicanthic fold. Considering the description given for the species, it's a safe bet.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Epicanthix

 

[Jayson1]

Personally I think source material can be useful but sometimes limiting in creativity. Nothing you get from source material one can't get through imagination and just writing a well rounded character. Someone suggested Chloe Bennett in the show. I love it but why make her this comic book pilot. What if they killed that character in episode 3 in a shocking twist because nobody thinks they will just kill off Winstead so early.

They end up hiring a thief to still a new ship and the thief is Chloe Bennett. She is someone who takes a drug that makes her force sensitive but also only has 5 years left to live but she takes it because her parents have a bounty out on her to kill her for mystery reasons. She joins the show in episode 3 and plays a big role in final episodes.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

The difference is Sisko is established in canon and was the star of a whole series. This new character will be important but I assume she is part of a ensemble and a new character to canon. A better example would have been if Randall Park's character in Ant Man 2 had been cast as a Latino women lets say and Randall Park instead got the Walton Goggins role or Lawrence Fishburne role. You still got the representation it's just in a slightly different package. You got a whole lot of options you can go when it comes to casting. As long as you are still embracing representation it doesn't matter always in every specific case as long as more diversity is still happening overall.

Whether or not Aphra is canon is completely irrelevant. What you're describing is stupid and racist. Just. STOP.

 

[Jayson1]

No I just think people sometimes get to stuck up on source material. When Deep Spice Nine created Captain Sisko they didn't need to pull that character out of a old comic or TNG episode. They created him from scratch. It seems limiting to think you can only get diversity by going to characters already created. Not that you can't do that but the imagination allows you go beyond the limits of source material if you want.

 

[DigificWriter]

@Jayson1 Dude, take a hint and stop digging holes for yourself with the ignorant and racist posts.

 

[Turtletrekker]

No I just think people sometimes get to stuck up on source material. When Deep Spice Nine created Captain Sisko they didn't need to pull that character out of a old comic or TNG episode. They created him from scratch. It seems limiting to think you can only get diversity by going to characters already created. Not that you can't do that but the imagination allows you go beyond the limits of source material if you want.

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[Jayson1]

I will. People don't seem to understand what I am saying about how diversity doesn't have to be defined by source material.

 

[thribs]

Should be a fun show but I still think she should have been killed off during the Dark Times. Just seems silly to keep her around

 

[Jayson1]

I think it's going to be pretty good. Ahsoka is a great character and as someone who like Bobba Fett I have total trust in the people making the series.

 

[O'Dib]

I will. People don't seem to understand what I am saying about how diversity doesn't have to be defined by source material.

Of course, as evidenced by the upcoming Superman film.

 

[Jayson1]

Of course, as evidenced by the upcoming Superman film.

Great example but I would actually point to Superman and Lois. The twist Superman and Lois did with bringing Irons was awesome. Having Lex Luthor be black and a solider from another universe would have been good in itself but then to use it as a twist to introduce Irons is one of the rare moments in tv were people didn't actually see the twist coming, was even better.

Many people I feel ,and this isn't just limited to diversity either mind you, seem to lack the imagination to really to think outside of the box when it comes to these things. Also I like the idea of coming up a list of actors you would want to use and then write a character around that actor. If we are taking asians my wish list for the show would be

1 Jessica Henwick'
2 Chloe Bennett
3 Kenneth Choi
4 Awkwafina
5 Randall Park
6 Grace Park

And the list goes on. The point is to get actors you would love to use and write a character around the actors you want to have on your show. If it doesn't line up with a comic book that is okay. Like mentioned you don't need to rely on old source material to create interesting characters of any race or gender.