The guy who said that died in 2387 on the Devidian intertime base
Spoilers Coda Trilogy Discussion Thread
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Finally started the Coda trilogy. I've been so excited to read this but I've had a lot of stuff going on including a bout with COVID so it took me longer than I thought to start it.
Interesting to see the Guardian of Forever early on. Not really surprising as I figured we're dealing with issues with time and likely parallel universes.
I'm not reading any comments about Coda so as to not spoil anything but rhetorically I wonder if anything about the Guardian will tie into it's appearance on season 3 of Discovery which I'm almost finished watching now.
We shall see
Interesting to see the Guardian of Forever early on. Not really surprising as I figured we're dealing with issues with time and likely parallel universes.
I'm not reading any comments about Coda so as to not spoil anything but rhetorically I wonder if anything about the Guardian will tie into it's appearance on season 3 of Discovery which I'm almost finished watching now.
We shall see
I will note that it's rather odd timing that I would be in the middle of re-reading Trill: Unjoined on the anniversary of a violent insurrection. And under the circumstances, I'm finding it every bit as harrowing as the most harrowing parts of Coda.
Hmm. If the events of Unity and Trill: Unjoined only happened in the First Splinter (Novelverse) reality, then perhaps we have another positive outcome of the Coda trilogy.
Hmm. If the events of Unity and Trill: Unjoined only happened in the First Splinter (Novelverse) reality, then perhaps we have another positive outcome of the Coda trilogy.
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I just finished The Expanse: Leviathan falls, I would have preferred that Coda had an ending like that.
I wish Coda had ended like Animorphs.
If you've read Animorphs then this was a very funny comment
"I feel like I'm gonna die, Bart."On the same day?????Somebody should do something!!
"We're all gonna die, Lise."
"I meant soon."
"So did I."
Just stop reading two chapters before the book runs out, and it will.
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The guy who said that died in 2387 on the Devidian intertime base
But he's also alive and well and cooking pizza for his wife and daughter.
Okay, I haven't read the Coda trilogy. Some venting rando, totally unprompted, left a comment on my deviantART page spoiling part of it for me, which I didn't appreciate since I thought there was a chance I might get around to reading it someday. TBH, I haven't read a ton of the Trek relaunch books, but had always kind of intended to go back and try to get caught up on at least some of it. However, now, knowing how they chose to end things, I'm not sure why I should even bother. As annoyed as I was with the jerk who spoiled Coda for me, perhaps he did me a favor. Frankly, I can't really blame him for being distraught. It seems to me that it was most likely inevitable that the litverse was going to have to eventually come to a conclusion for one reason or another, but I'm sure there must have been a way to craft a finale for the series that wasn't so utterly bleak.
If I do ever decide to read any more of the books within the litverse, the Coda trilogy sounds like the sort of thing I'd prefer to stay well clear of and pretend like it doesn't exist. Sorry, but my life is depressing enough as it is.
If I do ever decide to read any more of the books within the litverse, the Coda trilogy sounds like the sort of thing I'd prefer to stay well clear of and pretend like it doesn't exist. Sorry, but my life is depressing enough as it is.
That’s the fake Riker.
That’s the fake Riker.
No; he's still traumatized from his time in a Cardassian prison.
Did you all also stop watching Futurama after the revelation that
they carelessly rebooted the universe like a hundred times and the world of Futurama post-The Late Philip J. Fry was only ever a "just good enough" version?
FWIW the Coda trilogy isn't really "required" reading, as in it doesn't ties up loose ends from previous books, it only introduces new threats. You can basically stop reading at Collateral Damage and still get a satisfying conclusion.
Yeah, Collateral Damage ends basically with the Enterprise sailing off into the warp and its next adventure, if you want to end there. It is a big pity that DS9 didn't get a proper wrap up, given that's where it all began for the relaunch - Coda just jumps ahead and we have the end of times to deal with.
DS9 started the litverse and then, like onscreen, it became the red-headed stepchild of the litverse 
For TNG. So many DS9 storylines were just left hanging, even after Coda.
Well, that sucks, since, apart from the Destiny trilogy, when it comes to the litverse, I've mostly just read the DS9 relaunch books. Oh, and also New Frontier; I guess those are part of the same universe, too.
I'm not 100% sure this is directed at my comment specifically, but I'll respond anyway. While that episode is certainly existentially terrifying (but also kinda brilliant), I find it's made more palatable by the fact that it's an animated comedy. Don't get me wrong; there are times when a dark ending works for me, like the sitcom Dinosaurs which ended the only way I thought made sense, with
the dinosaurs facing extinction
I might as well add that trying to find some way to explain why the literary universe deviates from the timeline seen in recent shows, while ambitious, also feels rather futile to me since it seems plausible that canon could end up contradicting the books in ways other than just Picard's life going differently from the TNG relaunch series, like if a different origin is eventually given for the Borg or if it's firmly established that Andorians really just have two sexes rather than four, etc. I mean, do we also need a book that tries to explain why Diane Duane's interpretation of the Romulans differs from what came later in canonical media?
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DS9 got weirdly screwed around during the last 20 years. The ascendant plot line was built up across several novels, in highly interesting fashion aaanndd… no payoff. Part of the commercial reasoning behind having a shared and developing continuity in the years of fallow TV/movie production was to keep bringing people back and buying the interlinked books. It was really bad form to build an interlinked, exciting plot and not give the payoff.
For that same reason I was in favour of an ending to the litverse that neatly tied it up as a mirror / multiverse type thing. Even Coda as is is more satisfying than “lol, see you on paramount plus.” But you can totally head canon it ended with voyager going off beyond the galaxy and enterprise sailing into the warp and DS9… well, just sort of sitting there in space as we left her on TV.
Speaking of Voyager, nobody is really speaking of Voyager!
For that same reason I was in favour of an ending to the litverse that neatly tied it up as a mirror / multiverse type thing. Even Coda as is is more satisfying than “lol, see you on paramount plus.” But you can totally head canon it ended with voyager going off beyond the galaxy and enterprise sailing into the warp and DS9… well, just sort of sitting there in space as we left her on TV.
Speaking of Voyager, nobody is really speaking of Voyager!
