Might I ask what you get out of producing posts that are utterly unhelpful or fresh?
Manu Intiraymi as "Icheb"
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Might I ask what you get out of producing posts that are utterly unhelpful or fresh?
You might, but then you'd be getting personal. The post, not the poster.
You can. But, I'll take @The Old Mixer's advice here.
Who are we talking about?
Minuet!
i thought of her, but it was a speaking role: she is seen on the recording calling riker’s son
I think they should have brought Brophy back because even though he was in just one episode it was a very classic episode. Shelby was only in 2 episodes but since they were "Best of Both Worlds" the character became more famous in memory. Plus why not bring him back. He was good in the role. He is still alive. No point in recasting.
How was the legend that is Bruce Maddox not important ?
Of course we were ignorant to not being happy he was recast until we heard he was to be recast.
We were ignorant until that point.
People are odd about who they fall for character wise. I personally could not care if Icheb was recast but if I ever saw a recast (dead I know) Lon Suder i'de be pissed. Same goes for Tomalak or Gowron or Morn
They way I see recasting is sometimes necessary. Clearly you can't get Shatner and Nimoy to play younger versions of themselves like in the Kelvinverse movies. Sometimes they are better or neutral movies if the first actor wasn't that great. But then you have something like Maddox. The original actor did a good job. He is still alive. While the character can be done with recasting and the story won't be hurt by recasting him the fact is if you can get the first guy it's still a enhancement. New Maddox didn't hurt the episode so much as old Maddox would have made it a little better because it would be nice touch to use the same guy again. Take "First Contact." Would that movie be bad if we didn't get to see the EMH and Barclay in it? I think not. The movie would still be cool and fun but seeing them in it helps makes it just a little bit better.
But there are still limits in a production. Similar reasons as to why Alley didn't come back and Saavik was played by a different actress. Did that take away from TSFS?
I think it did. I mean I would rather have Ally than Curtis in the movie. Would the movie improve drastically I doubt. But I suspect if they had Ally the script might have been written differently. Plus I am sure she would have had a bigger role in "The Voyage Home" though it's unknown if that would have been a good or bad thing.
Why would have the script been written differently?
What would have been different? If they have a goal for the character and write it as such then the actress is only going to take it so far in terms of changes. While I appreciate that actors and actresses make differences in their performances I feel this is giving too much weight to smaller roles in the larger scheme of production.
the first part of your post.. wtf, are you justifying?
I'm not sure of the exact timing of when they found out Kirstie Alley wouldn't be reprising the role of Saavik. I assumed that the script was already finished when it came time to do the casting.
I don't think any of Saavik's dialog in TSFS sounds like something that the Alley version of Saavik wouldn't say. But the delivery might have been different. Nimoy directed Curtis to be the more typical stoic Vulcan and downplay the emotion that had been evident in Alley's performance.
Kor
I don't think any of Saavik's dialog in TSFS sounds like something that the Alley version of Saavik wouldn't say. But the delivery might have been different. Nimoy directed Curtis to be the more typical stoic Vulcan and downplay the emotion that had been evident in Alley's performance.
Kor
If they brought back Alley for Search for Spock I could see them spending more time on the planet. Maybe having to fight Klingons. Or they might have put on the Enterprise and maybe have Sulu or Chekov down on the planet with David. I feel like the character was to popular and they would want her to have a bigger role.
There's no reason for them to not do that anyway.
Well they had a new actor and you don't know if people are going to like her as much which is what happened. Curtis failed to win people over in the role. I think if she had at least done that then Curtis would have at least been along for the ride in The Voyage Home instead of staying on Vulcan.
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