Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x05 - "Terror Firma"

[Ar-Pharazon]

Is this show on hiatus now? I thought the cliffhanger from last week was the break, so Discovery could run it's course.

 

[Deks]

Is this show on hiatus now? I thought the cliffhanger from last week was the break, so Discovery could run it's course.

As far as I know, Prodigy is on hiatus for about a month.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

As far as I know, Prodigy is on hiatus for about a month.

Then both Prodigy and Discovery running concurrently? Or a hiatus for DSC?

 

[cooleddie74]

A month is a lot closer to the Holiday Season breaks the old syndicated and network Treks would take. That's something I'm used to.

 

[Deks]

Then both Prodigy and Discovery running concurrently? Or a hiatus for DSC?

Disco S3 hadn't been on a hiatus when airing (unless I recall incorrectly).
I think its just the case with Prodigy being on a month long hiatus - possibly because its an animated series, and it takes time to animate the characters, do post production, etc.

Or it could be just because its the holidays... plus, instead of the initial 10 episodes for the first season as a lot of us initially thought, Season 1 has 20 episodes.

 

[MorbidGorn]

Yeah, I third it.

I 4th it. It’s all Prime except for what happens in the Kelvin universe. Sheesh

 

[Commander Troi]

She didn’t know about the protostar engine either..

Good point.

 

[brandnewfan]

I think this is my favorite of the new shows.

 

[Tachyon]

This episode solidified for me the belief that the Protostar does not have transporters. If it had them, HJaneway would've used them IMO. Plus, Gwyn knows about the McGuffin Engine but never mentions transporters. My guess is it's because of some combo of the relatively small size of the ship and the power needs of the ME.

Not necessarily. There was thoron radiation/emissions on the planet and therefore they couldn't use transporters.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

She didn’t know about the protostar engine either...

uh...I thought we were over this by now

This is a Star Trek forum. No subject is ever over completely. Unfortunately.

 

[ToddCam]

The movies were set after the show

Obviously. But the changes was not reflected in DS9 or Voyager, iirc.

 

[jackoverfull]

More or less.
But if you think about it... if Disco is in the Prime Timeline 32nd century as we're led to think, this kinda puts ProtoWarp technology in the 'useless' category... meaning one of the things might happen:

1) Protostar will be lost forever (never returning to UFP)... which still doesn't preclude the option of UFP repeating the experiment and making another one as they have the data and needed things to build it - but because Disco already established that nothing UFP tried deemed to be 'reliable'... its unlikely they will do this, because Trek has a nasty tendency of abandoning technology after one 'snag'... even though improving efficiency and overcoming hurdles to making things work is kinda how science works and what the UFP does (except in case of advanced power sources and FTL speeds - UFP can't have that it seems).

2) The Protostar technology will end up being deemed pointless with advent of Temporal technology at some point.

2) Protostar will come back to UFP, but SF will for whatever reason decide the technology isn't worth the effort so it will again be deemed as 'worthless'.

3) Protostar will be destroyed - same result.

4) Protostar ends up in another universe where mid/late 24th century UFP can benefit from the technology in question in the long run.

Point is, Discovery ended up closing things down in that regard, so the technology 'won't work' one way or the other... that's why I kinda wish Disco jumped to an alternate universe future instead... because it would leave the door open to possibilities... but if it didn't... this will not be doable (or at least not in the long run).

Its similar to a giant reset button waiting to happen - aka, 'nothing you did matters because its already been established it won't work'.

or perhaps protowarp still relies on dilithium. Which on the protostar does, as two warp cores are needed to contain the star, even if it is not clear why as at this moment.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Yeah, for there to be a protostar powering the ship, the ship would be need to be gargantuan. According to one source I read on the web, there is a limit on how small a star can get because any smaller and there won't be nuclear fusion. The number I saw was something like 8.7% of the sun's diameter, which is something like 864,000 miles. So, we would be looking at a ship carrying a star with a diameter of 75,168 miles.

Remember the tiny "star" inside the Genesis Cave (ST II script):

A huge cavern. Kirk is actually standing at the middle
of it. Space extends vastly above and below his point
of view. Like Eden, lush growth everywhere, waterfalls,
and a cobalt of blue sky high, high above where a round orb
glows sending light and warmth downward. There is a
path from where Kirk stands down to the lower level where
Bones, and the others are waiting and calling to him.
Mist and haze waft gently across the cavern.

 

[NCC-73515]

Obviously. But the changes was not reflected in DS9 or Voyager, iirc.

I think DS9 used the TNG transporter, and Voyager had its own unique one

 

[cooleddie74]

And ENT has it's own design altogether, with a much more TOS look and effects. Which I'm glad for because Berman and Braga deciding to have a pre-TOS transporter look and sound like more like TNG and over 100 years before "The Cage" would have been incredibly annoying and inconsistent.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

or perhaps protowarp still relies on dilithium. Which on the protostar does, as two warp cores are needed to contain the star, even if it is not clear why as at this moment.

I thought the ProtoStar Containment module contains the baby star.

The Two Warp Cores are used to prime the ProtoStar reactor.

Kind of like how you need to prime a Internal Combustion Engine.

 

[jackoverfull]

I thought the ProtoStar Containment module contains the baby star.

correct.

The Two Warp Cores are used to prime the ProtoStar reactor.

Kind of like how you need to prime a Internal Combustion Engine.

no: they say that the reactor consumes a lot of power when NOT in use.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

This episode made me more interested in the Diviner's backstory, especially regarding how he felt he "had no choice" in leaving Gwyn behind. He clearly felt guilt when he did that - it's not like he callously threw away his daughter's life on a whim.

Althought I'm sure Gwyn thinks he did.

 

[NCC-73515]

And ENT has it's own design altogether, with a much more TOS look and effects. Which I'm glad for because Berman and Braga deciding to have a pre-TOS transporter look and sound like more like TNG and over 100 years before "The Cage" would have been incredibly annoying and inconsistent.

When Scotty rematerialized in Relics, the effect was close to the TOS one, and it even had a similar sound

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah, the Jenolen apparently had an older transporter model.