Had to look it up to see his age. Wow, he's way older than he looks. Thanks.
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Had to look it up to see his age. Wow, he's way older than he looks. Thanks.
Yup. Ever since the PA was paralyzed -- the same season as Rose's accident -- I figured it was eventually going to come out that this was a horrible place to work. And I wouldn't be surprised to find it's the same with some of the other CW/Berlanti shows.
Welcome to Hollywood where nothing ever changes no matter how much they pretend otherwise.
I bet Emily Bett Rickards, Brandon Routh, Dominic Purcell and all the other cast members who made odd disappearances have their own stories to tell.
Edit: Erica Durance and Laura Vandervoot have been less than glowing when discussing their experiences as well
I bet Emily Bett Rickards, Brandon Routh, Dominic Purcell and all the other cast members who made odd disappearances have their own stories to tell.
Edit: Erica Durance and Laura Vandervoot have been less than glowing when discussing their experiences as well
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Brandon Routh at the very least will make an appearance in The Flash season 8 as Atom. So not all bridges have been burned.
Yeah, it was fairly obvious the previously stated reasons for her exit were BS. Not terribly surprised by this.
ouchRuby Rose said:
WBTV is accusing Rose of revisionist history, saying her season 2 option wasn't picked up due to multiple complaints about her workplace behavior.
“Despite the revisionist history that Ruby Rose is now sharing online aimed at the producers, the cast and crew, the network, and the Studio, the truth is that Warner Bros. Television had decided not to exercise its option to engage Ruby for season two of Batwoman based on multiple complaints about workplace behavior that were extensively reviewed and handled privately out of respect for all concerned.”
https://gizmodo.com/batwomans-ruby-rose-accuses-the-cw-of-abuse-and-harassm-1847899435
“Despite the revisionist history that Ruby Rose is now sharing online aimed at the producers, the cast and crew, the network, and the Studio, the truth is that Warner Bros. Television had decided not to exercise its option to engage Ruby for season two of Batwoman based on multiple complaints about workplace behavior that were extensively reviewed and handled privately out of respect for all concerned.”
https://gizmodo.com/batwomans-ruby-rose-accuses-the-cw-of-abuse-and-harassm-1847899435
Between those facts and the IATSE arguments for safer working conditions in the current contract talks with AMPTP, I am inclined to believe Rose's version.
As for Mr. Scott, however I felt about his on-camera performance as Jacob Kane...that character can be recast, too.
As for Mr. Scott, however I felt about his on-camera performance as Jacob Kane...that character can be recast, too.
WB responded
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1450894384027758595
I'd hate to work in the legal department of WB. On one side you have Ray Fischer and his allegations against Whedon and on the TV side you have Ruby Rose and her claims and complaints
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1450894384027758595
I'd hate to work in the legal department of WB. On one side you have Ray Fischer and his allegations against Whedon and on the TV side you have Ruby Rose and her claims and complaints
Jacob's been dropped from the regular cast, though. All they have to do is not bring him back.
Batwoman
Season 3, Episode 2 - "Loose Tooth"
Like a scene from one of the lesser Friday the 13th films, two fun-lovin' teens are killed by a monster...
Luke Fox/Batwing: Sooo, Luke's suit shuts down when it detects a problem with the user as a failsafe. In other words, Luke is having "performance issues." That, and Mary abused her "authority" as a doctor by perving on her patient.
Oh, so NOW the writers are mentioning Luke's alleged trauma.
His one act resembling heroism was injecting Alice with the nanobot trackers. I guess that's something.
Wilder/BW: Wilder is the CEO of Wayne Enterprises....yeah, that makes no sense at all and is just giving Wilder more credits she never earned (despite that Kate story.
Jada Jet: ex-Mrs. Iron Mike aka Wilder's mama barges her way into Wayne Enterprises (SEE NOTES). and if that was not ridiculous enough, the now useless Sophie (SEE her entry) actually argues that Jet--at the time she gave up Wilder--had any valid excuse for dumping her own child. As this convoluted plot unfolds, Jet soon reveals the existence of son, and rest assured, Wilder will go on and on about the "why" regarding Jet's decision to keep / raise the son....
Killer Croc 2.0: The second daddy explained his son's backstory, I fully expected him to attack--and become a victim, too (lifted from The Walking Dead's subplots). One would think the Bat-suits would be resistant to electric shocks, since everyone from Taser-wielding citizens to super-villains have used electricity as a weapon....
Alice playing the tough "love" routine with the child was a shitty move (SEE NOTES)...
Alice: Alice--as noted last week--is sharper than Wilder, but having her deduce so many correct details about where and how Croc 2.0 is operating yet this did not dawn on Wilder makes this series' hero appear to be anything other than the kind of sharp mind that's usually found behind a bat-mask.
Montoya: There was no reason--well, no believable reason she should be so obsessed with collecting weapons that she'd strike a deal with a mass murderer. None. As noted last week, this a painfully obvious excuse to keep Skarsten's Alice on the show. Further, Wilder has no reason to bend to any of Montoya's demands. She seemed to forget her vigilante status (and how easy it would be to defy the GCPD, just as Kate resisted the hounding by the Crows), whether Montoya knew her true identity or not.
Sophie: Another character that's outlived her usefulness. The second she was no longer a Crow and did not try to reform the GCPD (Gee, what happened to that? After all, it was so overrun with corruption and racism, that Sophie believed it needed a face like hers to work from within), she was there as someone who will seek love with--you guessed it--all due to Kate no longer being around...
NOTES: Mary's "we don't use the 'C' word" BS. What the Hell ever.
Next week, Alice plays mind games with Mary, suggesting the Bat-gang do not really need her. Get ready for at least 20 minutes of characters attempting to validate Mary's "role" on a superhero team.
Alice's mistreatment of the kidnapped child, Wilder making less than subtle references to parental love. Enough, with the telegraphing to the Jet subplot.
GRADE: C.
Season 3, Episode 2 - "Loose Tooth"
Like a scene from one of the lesser Friday the 13th films, two fun-lovin' teens are killed by a monster...
Luke Fox/Batwing: Sooo, Luke's suit shuts down when it detects a problem with the user as a failsafe. In other words, Luke is having "performance issues." That, and Mary abused her "authority" as a doctor by perving on her patient.
Oh, so NOW the writers are mentioning Luke's alleged trauma.
His one act resembling heroism was injecting Alice with the nanobot trackers. I guess that's something.
Wilder/BW: Wilder is the CEO of Wayne Enterprises....yeah, that makes no sense at all and is just giving Wilder more credits she never earned (despite that Kate story.
Jada Jet: ex-Mrs. Iron Mike aka Wilder's mama barges her way into Wayne Enterprises (SEE NOTES). and if that was not ridiculous enough, the now useless Sophie (SEE her entry) actually argues that Jet--at the time she gave up Wilder--had any valid excuse for dumping her own child. As this convoluted plot unfolds, Jet soon reveals the existence of son, and rest assured, Wilder will go on and on about the "why" regarding Jet's decision to keep / raise the son....
Killer Croc 2.0: The second daddy explained his son's backstory, I fully expected him to attack--and become a victim, too (lifted from The Walking Dead's subplots). One would think the Bat-suits would be resistant to electric shocks, since everyone from Taser-wielding citizens to super-villains have used electricity as a weapon....
Alice playing the tough "love" routine with the child was a shitty move (SEE NOTES)...
Alice: Alice--as noted last week--is sharper than Wilder, but having her deduce so many correct details about where and how Croc 2.0 is operating yet this did not dawn on Wilder makes this series' hero appear to be anything other than the kind of sharp mind that's usually found behind a bat-mask.
Montoya: There was no reason--well, no believable reason she should be so obsessed with collecting weapons that she'd strike a deal with a mass murderer. None. As noted last week, this a painfully obvious excuse to keep Skarsten's Alice on the show. Further, Wilder has no reason to bend to any of Montoya's demands. She seemed to forget her vigilante status (and how easy it would be to defy the GCPD, just as Kate resisted the hounding by the Crows), whether Montoya knew her true identity or not.
Sophie: Another character that's outlived her usefulness. The second she was no longer a Crow and did not try to reform the GCPD (Gee, what happened to that? After all, it was so overrun with corruption and racism, that Sophie believed it needed a face like hers to work from within), she was there as someone who will seek love with--you guessed it--all due to Kate no longer being around...
NOTES: Mary's "we don't use the 'C' word" BS. What the Hell ever.
Next week, Alice plays mind games with Mary, suggesting the Bat-gang do not really need her. Get ready for at least 20 minutes of characters attempting to validate Mary's "role" on a superhero team.
Alice's mistreatment of the kidnapped child, Wilder making less than subtle references to parental love. Enough, with the telegraphing to the Jet subplot.
GRADE: C.
I don't disagree, however these two narratives aren't entirely mutually exclusive. There were rumours about friction between the crew and Rose before she even left, so it's possible it was both a horrendously toxic set AND the crew hated her. Indeed if it was that bad for the star, it was probably ten times worse for the crew, and depending on how she handled it (shit rolling down hill and all that) I can see a scenario where it all just spun out of control.
Not that it matters all that much; clearly something is very rotten on that show one way or the other, and it either needs new leadership, or just be flat-out cancelled.
Agreed; it comes to a point when certain fans of Dries and her type of content need to see unprofessional and cutthroat behavior for what it is. There's enough substantiated accounts against this production to be more than "he said / she said" or rumor.
From a creative standpoint, the series certainly lost its best asset when Rose was cut out. The post-Rose results speak for themselves.
When I read in your review that Wilder became the CEO of Wayne Enterprises I had to look at the episode to see how that came about.
It makes little sense that Kate would name Wilder and not Luke for the role, but either choice, especially Wilder, should be causing a lot of heartburn for the executives and stockholders at Wayne, but also across the business world. I think the show is missing out on not delving into the business side of the Batman mythos. If nothing else it could get them some cutthroat corporate villains to play around with more than they have.
So far I think the third season is starting off stronger than the last two seasons. I wasn't a big fan of the look for Killer Croc 2.0, and he came across as a monster of the week more than a worthy successor to Killer Croc. I did like how the show handled Alice this week. I was glad they had her leave the girl behind; she is a villain after all, and they are slow walking her redemption arc (which is what I am intending for them to do with her ultimately).
I thought Robin Givens made a strong first impression, so I guess she could be the corporate kind of villain this season instead of someone inside Wayne. Perhaps I'm mistaken but I thought she used the name Nia Wilder when she gave birth, and granted, we don't know if she named Ryan, it seems to me like she would already know Ryan was her daughter, or the name Ryan Wilder or just Wilder should ring some bells.
I liked the interplay between Luke and Mary. I also liked that Batwing's suit didn't freeze up on him when he was confronting Alice. I was expecting Alice to wipe the floor with him, but I was glad that didn't happen, and he got the win, of sorts. And it didn't make her look bad in the process either.
Didn't have many quibbles this week. Main one was Montoya outing Wilder as Batwoman in front of the two security guards. They didn't need to be in the scene. Batwoman isn't a good series, but I do think it's improved.
1. Bruce Wayne is Ryan's father. It's more likely to be Lucius Fox, because Bruce only pretends to have sex with dozens of models and socialites a month, but Wayne is more embarrassing than Fox, even though Fox was married and super duper old... Although Ryan is older than Luke, so Lucius may not have been married yet? I still think Lucius' second ghetto family got him killed, so what's the big deal about having a third family?
Batwing's sister or Batman's daughter.
Either would be good.
Remember when Rey wasn't the Emperor's granddaughter?
Javicia Leslie dob 1987.
Camrus Johnson dob 1990.
2. Mary is a billionaire, Luke is a Millionaire hacker, and Ryan is the CEO of Wayne Enterprises. Ryan may not have money "yet" but she has control of a monster corporation that could destroy Montoya, her family and the b%tch she took to prom. Buy her house. Evict her. Buy her parents houses. Evict them. Get her fired. Buy the local super market and black list her. Then start hacking. Take her money, leave child porn on every device she owns, steal and destroy her possessions, declare her wanted, label her as an escaped convict.
Batwing's sister or Batman's daughter.
Either would be good.
Remember when Rey wasn't the Emperor's granddaughter?
Javicia Leslie dob 1987.
Camrus Johnson dob 1990.
2. Mary is a billionaire, Luke is a Millionaire hacker, and Ryan is the CEO of Wayne Enterprises. Ryan may not have money "yet" but she has control of a monster corporation that could destroy Montoya, her family and the b%tch she took to prom. Buy her house. Evict her. Buy her parents houses. Evict them. Get her fired. Buy the local super market and black list her. Then start hacking. Take her money, leave child porn on every device she owns, steal and destroy her possessions, declare her wanted, label her as an escaped convict.
Given that the show is called Batwoman the business dealings of Wayne Enterprises are utterly irrelevant to the show.
Secondly the executives and shareholders wouldn't have any worse heartburn with Ryan Wilder as CEO than Bruce Wayne. Hell given some depictions of Wayne she'd be a step up.
In the novel adaption of No Man's Land, there's spot where Bruce realises that his klutz act has been too successful and that no-one took him seriously when lobbying the U.S federal govt to help Gotham.
