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What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

I don't think so.

In fact, assigning a position to people who don't reply is the equivalent of putting words in people's mouths.

With the possible exception of moderators and admin when it's their job to post, no one is obligated to reply to any post online, whether they agree or disagree with it.

Posting is a personal decision. And I just happened to feel that my position in disagreement with your post was something that I wanted to share. In particular, I feel somewhat offended that someone might construe that I agree with a position (including possibly an offensive one) that, for whatever reason, I do not respond to, whether it's because I have something else I'd rather do instead of directly engaging or because I am simply unaware of what's going on in a particular corner of the Internet.

Took the words out of my keyboard.
 
Perhaps this has been mentioned in one of the previous 274 pages, as I only read about four dozen, but:

DS9 was good specifically because Roddenberry was not involved and it was allowed to creatively evolve beyond some of his original ideas and insistence for TNG.

I'm not sure Pale Moonlight or the stories where they show that things aren't actually post-scarcity in that world would have been greenlit by Gene.
 
Perhaps this has been mentioned in one of the previous 274 pages, as I only read about four dozen, but:

DS9 was good specifically because Roddenberry was not involved and it was allowed to creatively evolve beyond some of his original ideas and insistence for TNG.

I'm not sure Pale Moonlight or the stories where they show that things aren't actually post-scarcity in that world would have been greenlit by Gene.

I agree, because I think that any franchise that goes as long as Star Trek has gone needs to grow and expand outside of its original (although I would argue Gene's take on TOS was much different than what developed in the mid-70s and beyond) scope and feel.
 
So anyway....controversial Star Trek Opinions....

I generally don't like "Data episodes" of TNG.

Data's Day is one of my favorites!
That's pretty good. So's "The Offspring."

I've always thought that "The Measure Of A Man" started off really strong, but then it fizzled as the material went over the head of the writer (Snodgrass).

From http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/135.htm:

PHILLIPA: It sits there looking at me, and I don't know what it is. This case has dealt with metaphysics, with questions best left to saints and philosophers. I'm neither competent nor qualified to answer those. I've got to make a ruling, to try to speak to the future. Is Data a machine? Yes. Is he the property of Starfleet? No. We have all been dancing around the basic issue. Does Data have a soul? I don't know that he has. I don't know that I have. But I have got to give him the freedom to explore that question himself. It is the ruling of this court that Lieutenant Commander Data has the freedom to choose.​

:barf:

"Does Data have a soul?" That's the basic issue? Seriously? So much for Star Trek as secular humanism!*

* - Not that it ever really was. That was just a reputation some gave it.

And the judge meekly declaring her own incompetence? Double :barf:

Anyhoo, I always thought that "The Offspring" is like a second bite at that apple.
 
In case you haven't noticed, the TNG/DS9 Brigade, which is what I'm talking about, goes after all other Star Trek and thinks it should be like TNG/DS9. Anything different, in their eyes, is inferior. Anything outside of the 1989-1999 range is either "that old stuff!" or "that new stuff!"

What's with all the brigades and sections of Star Trek, can't everyone just like what they like.
If someone says that thay don't like, for example Discovery for some reason, there's no reason to tell them that "but your own favourite did that too in some way or the other".
Right now STNG is my favourite Star Trek and series overall. Also I'm interested in visiting TOS eventually because I've watched it before and it was fun entertainment. Does that put me into some certain category?
 
"The Royale(TNG)" is close to peak TNG for the first two seasons. I'd easily place it in the Top 10 of the first 50 episodes of the series.

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