What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by Amasov, Jun 20, 2020.

  1. Vger23

    Vger23 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    it was actually a discussion with @Orphalesion about "Data's Day" that made me post this scandalous opinion!
     
  2. Vger23

    Vger23 Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I agree, because I think that any franchise that goes as long as Star Trek has gone needs to grow and expand outside of its original (although I would argue Gene's take on TOS was much different than what developed in the mid-70s and beyond) scope and feel.
     
  3. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    I mean the problems that arose from Roddenberry's influence on early TNG are pretty well documented, imho.

    As to Data's Day. Personally I like it, other's don't. I don't like City on the Edge of Forever, it's all good, people like what they like.
     
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  4. Cancel Culture

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    That's pretty good. So's "The Offspring."

    I've always thought that "The Measure Of A Man" started off really strong, but then it fizzled as the material went over the head of the writer (Snodgrass).

    From http://www.chakoteya.net/NextGen/135.htm:

    PHILLIPA: It sits there looking at me, and I don't know what it is. This case has dealt with metaphysics, with questions best left to saints and philosophers. I'm neither competent nor qualified to answer those. I've got to make a ruling, to try to speak to the future. Is Data a machine? Yes. Is he the property of Starfleet? No. We have all been dancing around the basic issue. Does Data have a soul? I don't know that he has. I don't know that I have. But I have got to give him the freedom to explore that question himself. It is the ruling of this court that Lieutenant Commander Data has the freedom to choose.​

    :barf:

    "Does Data have a soul?" That's the basic issue? Seriously? So much for Star Trek as secular humanism!*

    * - Not that it ever really was. That was just a reputation some gave it.

    And the judge meekly declaring her own incompetence? Double :barf:

    Anyhoo, I always thought that "The Offspring" is like a second bite at that apple.
     
  5. JesterFace

    JesterFace Fleet Captain Commodore

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    What's with all the brigades and sections of Star Trek, can't everyone just like what they like.
    If someone says that thay don't like, for example Discovery for some reason, there's no reason to tell them that "but your own favourite did that too in some way or the other".
    Right now STNG is my favourite Star Trek and series overall. Also I'm interested in visiting TOS eventually because I've watched it before and it was fun entertainment. Does that put me into some certain category?
     
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  6. Ghouleddie74

    Ghouleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    "The Royale(TNG)" is close to peak TNG for the first two seasons. I'd easily place it in the Top 10 of the first 50 episodes of the series.
     
  7. Hades Temperature Checker

    Hades Temperature Checker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Yes.
     
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  8. Vger23

    Vger23 Vice Admiral Admiral

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  9. JesterFace

    JesterFace Fleet Captain Commodore

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    That makes me wonder, which one?
     
  10. Hades Temperature Checker

    Hades Temperature Checker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Probably a fan one.
     
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  11. JesterFace

    JesterFace Fleet Captain Commodore

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    That's nice, I'm a fan of the two first Star Trek live action series.
     
  12. Hades Temperature Checker

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    Probably the Star Trek fan one then. We'll have to conduct more studies to be sure though.
     
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  13. JesterFace

    JesterFace Fleet Captain Commodore

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    I understand, no point making judgements too fast. I will let you decide how we might proceed with this inquiry.
     
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  14. Hades Temperature Checker

    Hades Temperature Checker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Thank you for your cooperation.
     
  15. JesterFace

    JesterFace Fleet Captain Commodore

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    No problem. And while I know it's mandatory, I won't take it personally if you don't personally do the initial anal probing, one of your insect servants may do it.
     
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  16. Hades Temperature Checker

    Hades Temperature Checker Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Busy, busy, busy.
     
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  17. Kor

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    I probably revisit this one more than any other season 1-2 episodes.

    Kor
     
  18. Orphalesion

    Orphalesion Commodore Commodore

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    Bah...not for me, I consider the Royale one of the worst episodes in any Star Trek show.

    Then again, I'm the weirdo who likes Haven.
     
  19. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I too, like holodeck adventures that for some reason don't take place on the holodeck.
     
  20. Trek Survivor

    Trek Survivor Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    One of my faves (but I rate season 2 as one of the best) - love it when Trek doesn't take itself too seriously.
     
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