Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x05 - "An Embarrassment of Dooplers"

[Noname Given]

I think the bouncer was also a species we've encountered in TAS; Maybe "The Jihad" as well. Was he the one who could open complicated locks?

Yes he was.

 

[Crewman6]

There's practically no character development in TOS. Very little in TNG. There's some in DS9 and practically none in Voy, except for Seven and the romance between B'elanna and Tom (sort of). There's so little character development in Enterprise that they can show us the whole crew practically unchanged after SEVEN YEARS!!!

There's tons of character development in DS9. Almost every character winds up in a wildly different place at the end of the show than they were in the beginning.

Not every character has the same amount of growth/change and, in some cases, it may only relate to a relationship (O'Brien doesn't really change, but his relationship with Julian does a complete 180 from where it was in the early days, for example.)

But in almost every other Trek series so far, there's really no difference to Kirk in S1 vs. S3 or Picard in S2 or S7. (Picard's most significant character arc takes place literally in the last episode.)

DS9 remains a rarity among Trek series and is all the better for it.

 

[Noname Given]

There's practically no character development in TOS. Very little in TNG. There's some in DS9 and practically none in Voy, except for Seven and the romance between B'elanna and Tom (sort of). There's so little character development in Enterprise that they can show us the whole crew practically unchanged after SEVEN YEARS!!!

No...Johnathan Archer was very changed after the events in ENT S2 - "Regeneration", and ENT S3 "Damage" in particular. They showed that change on screen in ENT S4 "Home".

 

[cooleddie74]

One can say that not everything about Archer was better after 10 years in command of the NX-01 but he had definitely changed and become a lot less bigoted.

 

[Commander Troi]

SO MUCH FUN! I laughed A LOT!

This is my favorite episode so far this season! The A/B/C stories were all fun and connected in a satisfying way, I love that Star Trek toys are canon, that they were building a functioning starship model with full interiors, and that they even had tiny little badge cards, although the scaling of that model vs. the tiny interiors they showed...I think we could have a size discussion on that, was it really to scale? And the production design was fantastic! The interiors of Starbase 25 are exactly the type of big sci-fi structure I've been wanting to see within the Star Trek universe that the shows never get to show us. Huge areas where people are just being alive and doing things in the future, not on some pretty planet, but on something artificial in spaaaace. This show has a great look to it, and every episode it feels like the team is having so much fun bringing it to life. I love animation that expresses love from it's animators and effects artists just as much as I love it when you can tell actors are having fun playing their characters.

I am surprised how much I missed Boimler and Mariner episodes. It was nice to get a break and mix up the characters the last few episodes and I hadn't really thought much about them being apart. But having them back here, and in an episode that is actually quite sweet, was very nice. I like the way the characters are getting closer this season, even though each episode feels like the show is still trying to figure itself out in ways. And Captain Freeman is hilarious. I love her as a not-foil to Mariner. She is obsessive about looking good the way Mariner is obsessive about not looking good, and when you push her into her most fundamental behaviors, she acts just like Mariner.

What they said. Plus, the chase scenes, the fabulous bar (I wonder how many places have a "Kirk drank here" sign? Is it like "Washington slept here"?), a starbase "mall" - with karts!, so many wonderful callouts everywhere I looked, Rutherford finally admitting he'd been doubting himself, and Mariner *finally* admitting how mad she was at Boimler and them making up. I thought the Doopler(s) were funny - but Richard Kind always makes me laugh. Just a joy from start to finish for me.

Interestingly, Qualor II, Freecloud, and Starbase 25 all seem to be within the Federation (per BTS and onscreen dialogue), but on the periphery. Hives of scum and villainy where less-than-reputable pursuits are known to be had.

So, of course, Quark's would be popping up here. I'm sure everything they do is above-board, and it's just an unfortunate coincidence that a criminal element persists nearby.

I see what you did there!

 

[NCC-73515]

The duplicating dooplers reminded me of Mr. Meeseeks XD
Being stranded on Rubicun III must be great (if you know the rules)
The Cerritos model saucer is misaligned at a funny angle in 2 scenes
Funny that DJ Okona still carries his guidance module around! XD

 

[Paul755]

No...Johnathan Archer was very changed after the events in ENT S2 - "Regeneration", and ENT S3 "Damage" in particular. They showed that change on screen in ENT S4 "Home".

Its not just Archer, all three of Archer, Trip and T’Pol are very different people in the finale than they are in the first season…and for Trip I don’t just mean him dying.

 

[Crewman6]

The duplicating dooplers reminded me of Mr. Meeseeks

Except not funny.

 

[ToyBoxComix]

The jokes and stories are great, but I really enjoy all the character work that they're doing this season.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Imagine if the Borg assimilate the Dooplers and figure out how to genetically engineer / control the duplicating bio mechanism.

They would be friggin near unstoppable.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

Best one this season for me. First 10.

Also, that's Quark mentioned three episodes in a row now and a Deep Space Nine model. I recall someone elsewhere wondering why DS9 wasn't getting any Easter Eggs... there you are chum! Maybe an Armin Shimmerman cameo on the way?

 

[thribs]

You really don’t need the spoiler tags. Its already marked as a spoiler thread.

 

[Richard S. Ta]

You really don’t need the spoiler tags. Its already marked as a spoiler thread.

Excised!

 

[Andyliini]

Someone else might have pointed this one out as well but... Was that supposed to be Alex Kurtzman in the wheelchair? It really did look like him.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

The important question, of course, is which Federation official decided to have the trade negotiations take place on Starbase 25 as opposed to, say, Veridian III. Also, the Dooplers should have warp capability, so why not travel to a planet like that in a tried and true environment?

 

[dupersuper]

I'd give it a 9 for the Boimler/Mariner story, but the Doop story seriously underwhelmed me and dropped it 2 points. It was great hearing Richard Kind in Star Trek, but even for a comedic cartoon in a very not hard sci-fi franchise, that was a lot. How did he replicate with clothes?

Also, the Dooplers should have warp capability, so why not travel to a planet like that in a tried and true environment?

Maybe they're relatively new to warp, and have only achieved warp 2 or 3, and didn't want to go into suspended animation and leave years before every one else?

 

[cooleddie74]

Remember that the Evora had just achieved warp drive and become a Federation protectorate just prior to INS and the Evora delegation were traveling aboard the Enterprise-E, so I could see the Dooplers being a recent warp species and accepting an offer to travel aboard a Federation vessel rather than one of their own native warp-capable ships.

 

[thribs]

I don’t think Starfleet knows how a +1 works. What if someone wanted to bring a loved one who wasn’t in Starfleet?
It was a very strange party

 

[Michael]

^ And I don‘t know if you know how a bouncer at a club works. They don‘t like your look or your face (or the class of starship you serve on) and they won‘t let you in. It‘s certainly a particular stereotype of bouncer, at the very least.

 

[Boris Skrbic]

Why would Starfleet need a bouncer?