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Spoilers Mariner's Background
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The writers just couldn't help themselves and wanted another Worf reference in the show, screw character consistency.
True, but it shows authorial intent. That is to say, while TNG Season 8 isn't canon to Lower Decks, it's very possible that Mariner will be given a very similar backstory. They are both named for the same person and the Cadet is explicitly called out as being from the "lower decks".
Besides, if you want to litter your show with references to previous episodes what better way to do it plausibly than have your main character have served on two of them.
In Cupid's Errant Arrow, Mariner recounts an experience from when she was serving on the Quito where one of her friends gets killed by a shape-changer. Just before the shape-changer attacks, the friend recounts the events of Descent (Data having an evil brother who teamed up with the Borg) as if they had just happened. So I think it's fair to assume that Mariner has been serving in Starfleet at least since then (2370 or thereabouts).
In the pilot, Mariner says that she had been present for first contact with the Galadornians (sp?) the prior year on the Quito before she got her ass demoted to the Cerritos. So that would be 2379.
It's 2381 as of LD S2.
So the question is when she did the other four ships and DS9.
In the pilot, Mariner says that she had been present for first contact with the Galadornians (sp?) the prior year on the Quito before she got her ass demoted to the Cerritos. So that would be 2379.
It's 2381 as of LD S2.
So the question is when she did the other four ships and DS9.
She clearly had some level of PTSD over it, especially given the ridiculous lengths she went to in that episode to investigate Barb.
But if the hypothesis is correct that it did occur about 10 years prior to the start of LD, she presumably had a bunch of things happen to her since.
Why? I believe her Mom served on the Enterprise, it is a far stretch that Mariner would've spent time since the Galaxy-class carried families.
I definitely think that it's pretty clear that she was onboard the D, cadet/ensign or family member. She knows Riker fairly well, and a lot of insider knowledge about canon that only someone from the hero ship would know. It's possible that her dad and her mom were both serving on the Enterprise and that high level posting led them to their posting as Admiral and Captain respectively. Her mom was for sure, since she was Riker's "Chad'ich".
It's also entirely possible that word of the events of Descent are only beginning to make the rounds years after it happened. I'd imagine everything to do with that episode was very hush hush with the higher ups in Starfleet.
There's no particular evidence one way or another to suggest that Freeman served or didn't serve on the Enterprise.
In a vacuum, the notion that Mariner served on both the Federation's flagship and DS9 seems a little farfetched. Both because what are the odds that she served on two of the main crews we have followed in this era of Star Trek (hey, maybe she was on Voyager too!), but also the notion of going from the most prestigious posting in Starfleet to one of the lesser ones (or even the other way around) seems odd. Admittedly, Worf and O'Brien did, but did so while getting apparent promotions.
There isn't really anything Beckett knows about canon that is insider knowledge.
It's at least conceivable that Freeman could have served as a lt. commander or a commander on the Enterprise before getting promoted to captain of a smaller ship. But it seems unlikely that Dadmiral could possibly have been serving on the D or the E during any relevant time frame, as of course, to get promoted to admiral by 2380, he presumably would have had to have been a captain for a number of years and obviously wasn't in the senior staff of the Enterprise.
Anything's possible, but it seems far more likely to me that the notion that thet the events of Descent would be public and be talked about contemporaneously seems more likely than them being secret for a time, getting declassified and then ensigns randomly talking about them years later.
Hm. So how about this. Her Dad takes a promotion, but her mom is still career minded and takes a job on the Enterprise, bringing her daughter along. Is she old enough to have been in Wesley's class? Could he have been her first Boimler?
So she lived on but didn't serve on the Enterprise, but did end up as a cadet or ensign on DS9.
So she lived on but didn't serve on the Enterprise, but did end up as a cadet or ensign on DS9.
And Beckett rejects promotions now due to an event but that doesn't mean she wasn't promoted before.
We have no idea how old Boimler is. I think it's very unlikely he's only 23, and probably closer to 28 or even 30. I've speculated before that he's probably the result of an early adulthood career change following the Breen attack on California (a la the 9/11 effect that boosted military enlistment among similar-aged Americans).
I am curious as to where the name Mariner came from. Did she just adopt it as an adult to put distance between her and her parents? I had been assuming she was going by her father's name but I believe he has been named as Admiral Freeman some time this season.
The easiest answer would be that it is her mother's maiden name.
Nothing established to confirm but as a "source" for it then it would present the simplest solution
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