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Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 1 spoiler discussion!

I do worry with Irons and his daughter who also helped build the suit we might be seeing a creeping CW trope coming and that is a team Superman. I really don't want to see that.
Agreed, but this show hasn't betrayed my faith yet, and I don't want to buy trouble. I feel like they're more interested at this point in what Natalie will bring to the central family dynamic than they are in building "team Superman."
 
People keep mentioning how the family should know Kara. But do we actually know if the kids have any knowledge of Kara Danvers? After Crisis does Supergirl ever mention that she is friends with the kids? Obviously Clark and Lois know her, but beyond that?
 
No, but it was going to be originally. If that's still the case, we have no idea.

As I said, it's the other way around. S&L's entire season was supposed to air before Supergirl's final season, but it had to shut down for a while due to COVID and so SG's season premiered early to fill the gap.
 
People keep mentioning how the family should know Kara. But do we actually know if the kids have any knowledge of Kara Danvers? After Crisis does Supergirl ever mention that she is friends with the kids? Obviously Clark and Lois know her, but beyond that?
With me, it's not so much that they don't know Kara but they act as if they don't know of Supergirl. After finding out their dad is Superman, there's no moment of "oh, so that girl that used to wear your costume and had all your powers....". Doesn't come up when discussing about discovering and controlling their powers. No mention from Edge or Gen. Lane or John Henry and so on. It's just conspicuous, not to mention all the other powerful aliens and Kryptonians from SG that seem missing from the conversations.

I get why Supergirl or say Flash can't always lend a hand on other shows or get saved themselves more often by the supers and so on but it doesn't always feel like these characters are operating in the same place. One thing I think the MCU does well is that it usually feels like the characters are in a shared setting even if the other characters aren't present.
 
With me, it's not so much that they don't know Kara but they act as if they don't know of Supergirl. After finding out their dad is Superman, there's no moment of "oh, so that girl that used to wear your costume and had all your powers....". Doesn't come up when discussing about discovering and controlling their powers. No mention from Edge or Gen. Lane or John Henry and so on. It's just conspicuous, not to mention all the other powerful aliens and Kryptonians from SG that seem missing from the conversations.

I get why Supergirl or say Flash can't always lend a hand on other shows or get saved themselves more often by the supers and so on but it doesn't always feel like these characters are operating in the same place. One thing I think the MCU does well is that it usually feels like the characters are in a shared setting even if the other characters aren't present.

Well the power-levels certainly impact there. The MCU doesn't have characters (ATM) who can approach the speed of light and hear any kind of danger on the entire planet and get there in seconds. So that kind of near-instantaneous ability certainly adds a different dimension to when you discuss/evaluate/view extreme situations in the Arrowverse vs the current MCU.

When you make characters too OP you gotta take the criticism for when there isn't a realistic response to extreme city/world threats by those other OP characters who can get there in a blink of an eye.

Especially when you saw how Superman nearly immediately adopted John Henry Irons as his back-up for this fight like quite literally right after John Henry Irons was trying to kill Superman and never a mention of any other PRE-EXISTING allies who had proven their loyalty/friendship/ability/etc... Even when his family is in danger.
 
@dupersuper There's no call for a laughing emoji in response to the absolutely legitimate opinion that Man of Steel is an excellent Superman film that does the character better justice than this particular series.

You replied to a member often guilty of making childish posts, and is still emotionally rattled by the fact Superman has killed in several comics and adaptations.

I do worry with Irons and his daughter who also helped build the suit we might be seeing a creeping CW trope coming and that is a team Superman. I really don't want to see that.

Then prepare yourself for the possibility of a "team Superman", because Berlanti productions often repeat a near-endless list of gimmicks that have been beaten into the ground in most of his series.
 
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Ratings DISASTER for this show with the finale! 0.62, series low by FAR.

I'm fairly certain someone will accuse you of being misleading with the numbers. In any case, the fans of this series were well aware of the season finale's air date--in other words, it caught no one off guard and was not suffering from musical chairs scheduling, and people still choose to watch the CW broadcast, rather than wait to watch on the CW app, so one must wonder why this series is not performing better.
 
I'm fairly certain someone will accuse you of being misleading with the numbers. In any case, the fans of this series were well aware when the season finale would air--in other words, it caught no one off guard and was not suffering from musical chairs scheduling.
And worse yet, the ratings in the demo are collapsing too... Yes, yes I am aware that CW shows make money in other ways, but when your series low is the season finale... that's really bad. How bad? 0.11 in the demo compared to 0.16 for The Flash! And the Flash is on season 7! Same viewership as the last Supergirl. Now as bad as all that is, its still the 5th most popular show on the CW (behind Walker, The Flash, All American, and the last season of Supernatural). The CW even renewed Dynasty, with its 0.05 demo rating. Superman is certainly more expensive to make than all these shows though...
 
This show is made by HBO from what I understand and just airs on CW. Maybe next year they will just move it to HBOMAX were it's a better fit anyways. Just like Crazy Ex Girlfriend and Black Lighting would have been better on HBOMAX provided it had existed back then. Some shows are frankly to good for CW. Heck I would even toss in early years of Arrow and The Flash. I feel like the CW itself has degraded and it wasn't as so bad as it is today. Maybe modern teens just have no standards anymore so they are just putting anything out their that hits all the modern teen stereotypes.
 
This show is made by HBO from what I understand and just airs on CW. Maybe next year they will just move it to HBOMAX were it's a better fit anyways. Just like Crazy Ex Girlfriend and Black Lighting would have been better on HBOMAX provided it had existed back then. Some shows are frankly to good for CW. Heck I would even toss in early years of Arrow and The Flash. I feel like the CW itself has degraded and it wasn't as so bad as it is today. Maybe modern teens just have no standards anymore so they are just putting anything out their that hits all the modern teen stereotypes.
Modern teens (at least the ones I know) are rarely watching TV, and when they are, they usually watch streaming when they want, not when the shows air. TV ratings, as currently set up, are obsolete.
 
Most of the folks I know that are watching the CW shows are either comic book fans around my age or people in their 20s to early 30s. But that's just an unscientific sampling. ;)

However, I do feel like the CW shows are done on the cheap. Superman and Lois being the exception. And it's really the only one I watch. The other ones just don't captivate me, something about the style and writing I can't get into.

Although, I might binge season 2 of Batwoman based on a friend's recommendation.
 
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