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I think the TOS movies have better defined themes than the ones afterward. Or at least, were presented better.


TMP: Seeking out new life.
TWOK: Dealing with older age.
TSFS: Sacrifice for those we love.
TVH: Facing the music together.
TFF: Brotherhood.
TUC: Letting go of past hatred.
 
I think the TOS movies have better defined themes than the ones afterward. Or at least, were presented better.


TMP: Seeking out new life.
TWOK: Dealing with older age.
TSFS: Sacrifice for those we love.
TVH: Facing the music together.
TFF: Brotherhood.
TUC: Letting go of past hatred.

I agree with your entire list

TUC is my second favourite.
 
GEN: The passing of the torch.
FC: One man's desire for revenge.
INS: The needs of the many vs. the rights of the few.
NEM: Uhhh... I don't know.
 
And the scene still strained credulity with no emergency landing plan.

Eh. It's Star Trek. If it doesn't half-ass some emergency lifesaving scene it won't be Star Trek. ;) The whole Red Angel Suit and Discovery escape into the future through the temporal rift while the Enterprise provides fire and cover is no less contrived and even it works. The shuttlecraft crash landing is momentarily exciting even if the resolution is invented out of the blue.
 
Eh. It's Star Trek. If it doesn't half-ass some emergency lifesaving scene it won't be Star Trek. ;) The whole Red Angel Suit and Discovery escape into the future through the temporal rift while the Enterprise provides fire and cover is no less contrived and even it works. The shuttlecraft crash landing is momentarily exciting even if the resolution is invented out of the blue.
I get that. But Chekov's question of Plan B just annoyed me.
 
He shares a lot with Lt. William Bligh, R. N. Neither really understood why the crew failed to respond to their commands.

Flogging round the fleet might have made a comeback.
Bligh was not really much of a disciplinarian. His record in that regard is not very different from any other captain, and in other ways he was very progressive, such as his attention to sailors' health and exercise. He did have a habit of blowing up at his officers and using foul language (apparently even by standards of the times, he was reprimanded for it once) and must have really gotten under his officer's skins, as he had two mutinies. What's interesting is that in the case of the Bounty, most of the crew were on his side, or at least made no move to help the mutineers. Fletcher Christian and his fellow mutineers misjudged the degree of support they would have, but did have an element of surprise. Christian had powerful connections, and money, at home, and his family more or less paid to have a hatchet job done on Bligh that still sticks to this day, which is a pity. He may have been the greatest navigator in history.
 
He may have been the greatest navigator in history
4000 miles in an overloaded, under-provisioned open boat without the loss of a hand? He has my vote.

But you take my point about his command style. Hardly the martinet he’s often portrayed to be, but a socially awkward fellow who was tone deaf as to his impulsive statements and often forgot his cutting remarks as soon as he said them.

He went from able seaman to vice-admiral, so the class distinctions between he and Christian very likely played a part in the mutiny. Arthur Herman forcefully argues in favor of Bligh—or at least against Christian—in To Rule the Waves.
 
That makes sense. Picard is nurture and Shinzon is what Picard might well have been with a lifetime of abuse and tyrannical rule by overseers. The latter is the result of nature and no formal upbringing or education.
 
That makes sense. Picard is nurture and Shinzon is what Picard might well have been with a lifetime of abuse and tyrannical rule by overseers. The latter is the result of nature and no formal upbringing or education.

I actually thought NEM’s key themes of “nurture vs nature” and “striving to be better is what it means to be human” were extremely apparent throughout the film, and very classically TNG, in much the same way as GEN’s explorations of mortality and escapism-addiction were very clear and typical of TNG.

It’s really FC that is just a straight-up action flick and INS with a convoluted message/theme that I think are less clear.
 
I thought Insurrection was a theme of forced migration where a group of people are forced to move to a place they don't wish to move to.
 
I thought Insurrection was a theme of forced migration where a group of people are forced to move to a place they don't wish to move to.

They made a terrible mistake making the Ba'Ku a few hundred people who aren't even native to the planet, as it can be seen as basically an extended allegory about why NIMBYism is morally correct.
 
They made a terrible mistake making the Ba'Ku a few hundred people who aren't even native to the planet, as it can be seen as basically an extended allegory about why NIMBYism is morally correct.

OK now that's a take on it I have never thought of.... I like it.
 
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