Spoilers Loki season one discussion thread

[JirinPanthosa]

One possible explanation: They couldn’t have been affected by the snap during the period they overlapped because their past actions had already been impacted by their future actions so neither version of them could be removed without breaking causality.

 

[dupersuper]

I don't disagree in general, but you would think that they would have mentioned it to Fitz when they filled him in on everything.

Fitz and Enoch were traveling the galaxy for months: there'd be no need to mention to them that half the people in the universe disappeared.

The fact that none of them were snapped, would indicate that the snap didn't happen. It's extraordinary unlikely that all of them would miss it.

Meh. That's how random works. The entire Barton family minus one were snapped. Groups won't be evenly blipped.

Thanos is referenced in season 5 in the negotiations with the Confederacy. If the snap happened it happened after that.

And not only the main cast would have had to survive but everyone with them.

Who was "with" the cast?

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Who was "with" the cast?

In what time frame are we talking about? Depending on when between season 5 and 7 you're talking about, Deke, Enoch, Piper, the other guy that died, Flint, Cora, Daniel Sousa, the child.

And it would be pretty weird if half the people in the world vanished and it didn't emotionally effect a single person in the cast.

 

[dupersuper]

In what time frame are we talking about? Depending on when between season 5 and 7 you're talking about, Deke, Enoch, Piper, the other guy that died, Flint, Cora, Daniel Sousa, the child.

And it would be pretty weird if half the people in the world vanished and it didn't emotionally effect a single person in the cast.

Well, "the child" was born post-snap. The rest I pretty much consider main cast in the last two seasons.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Well, "the child" was born post-snap. The rest I pretty much consider main cast in the last two seasons.

When are you putting the snap, between seasons 5 and 6? Then the child wouldn't exist, but if it happened between the end of seasons 6 and 7, it would.

But after 5 you still have Deke, Piper, what's his name and Enoch, you can remove Coulson depending on how long after season 5 it happened, that still leaves 10 people, 1/1024.

 

[theenglish]

The snap happens during the final episode of Season 5; the invasion is mentioned in the episode. It was supposed to be the final episode of the series but then they were renewed for two more years.

 

[Saul]

I haven't watched a single episode of Agents of Shield but I was under the impression that it was a different timeline and that was due to some time travel adventures in the series?

 

[Guy Gardener]

I haven't watched a single episode of Agents of Shield but I was under the impression that it was a different timeline and that was due to some time travel adventures in the series?

The Time Travel was near the end.

Hydra revealed as the rulers of SHIELD exploded season one.

They visited the set of Thor Dark world to clean up the mess.

Coulson spent a season building a hellicarrier for Nick Fury when it was time to take America back in one of the other movies. The movie in return didn't say thanks or nothing. What a ####.

The show got sick of being ignore and neglected by the movies, so stopped trying.

My memories are old and bad.

They time traveled/Daisy blew up the planet "as" Thanos was making Earth fall to get his stones.

 

[Tuskin38]

Lady Sif showed up in one episode.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Lady Sif showed up in one episode.

Two, actually.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The snap happens during the final episode of Season 5; the invasion is mentioned in the episode. It was supposed to be the final episode of the series but then they were renewed for two more years.

So then 11 people minimum had to all survive, 1/2048.

And nobody can have lost anyone at all that would have an effect on their mental wellbeing.

It makes a lot more sense to just say that the time loop being created was a divergent timeline.

 

[Saul]

The Time Travel was near the end.

Hydra revealed as the rulers of SHIELD exploded season one.

They visited the set of Thor Dark world to clean up the mess.

Coulson spent a season building a hellicarrier for Nick Fury when it was time to take America back in one of the other movies. The movie in return didn't say thanks or nothing. What a ####.

The show got sick of being ignore and neglected by the movies, so stopped trying.

My memories are old and bad.

They time traveled/Daisy blew up the planet "as" Thanos was making Earth fall to get his stones.

This is a real Schroeder's cat situation. Either everything you said was true or it's a classic Guy Gardener reply. The only way to know is to watch the show.

 

[Guy Gardener]

This is a real Schroeder's cat situation. Either everything you said was true or it's a classic Guy Gardener reply. The only way to know is to watch the show.

It's a Weedon show.

For all that's wrong with Weedon...

It's not that Weedon.

Jedikiah and Jossiah?

Are the Weedons Mennonites?

 

[Turtletrekker]

Jed Whedon, his wife Marissa Tancharoen and Jeffrey Bell were the AOS showrunners.

 

[dupersuper]

And nobody can have lost anyone at all that would have an effect on their mental wellbeing.

How in the world would you know that? They could have lost people, including supporting characters from previous seasons. The next season picks up a year later and in the middle of the action. Just because none of them mention their dusted friend/cousin/whatever doesn't mean we can assume anything?

 

[theenglish]

The AoS producer viewpoint was that they did the best with what they were allowed to air, and they were not allowed to acknowledge anything happening in actual continuity. IMO this is just stupid, considering the original intent of the series was to have it be part of the movie universe. Other than the opening sequence of Endgame nothing would have been spoiled if Season 6 had happened after the Blip.

 

[Tuskin38]

the AoS writers weren't told what was going to happen in Infinity War or Endgame, so they had to write around that.

 

[JD]

That has always felt a bit strange to me, I understand being cautious about spoilers, but you'd think they would at least tell the writers of the show that is supposed to take place in the world as the movies what is going on with the next movies.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Coming back to Loki...(What?! This is the Loki thread?!)...

The second half of the score is out today. I've been listening to the first half almost nonstop since the finale and it's so damn beautiful. Listening to the second half right now.

 

[theenglish]

the AoS writers weren't told what was going to happen in Infinity War or Endgame, so they had to write around that.

Exactly, it was a really poor decision and a missed opportunity.

On the Loki topic, I have been reading online about Kang's involvement in various story lines over the past few years, as I really only know him from the 70's and reprints of 60's stories as well as the Young Avengers from around 2006 and some Avengers stories I've read here and there. There is a lot of other stuff over the years that have added to his story.

It really is a great opportunity for Majors to stretch his talents and be involved in a variety of movies as different versions of the character. There are so many different ways he could appear in seemingly unrelated stories.

As for the second season of Loki--I'd like to see this series become a continuing story that links tangentially to the movies and develops its own thing. There are so many directions they could go with it, including making it the MCU version of the Exiles.