I'm working on making a replica of Sylvie's crown.
The horns need more work, but I think the crown will work.
The horns need more work, but I think the crown will work.
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Depends on how seriously to take the Butterfly Effect. A difference like my wearing different shoes one day might change everything, or nothing. Small changes might even out over time, like the flow of a river that will always go downhill along the path of least resistance.
Their main concern seems to be variances that would pit one timeline against another eventually. Presumably other timelines could flow alongside with no effect, and like small branches of a river, eventually rejoin the main flow.
What about Immortus?
Old Kang.
Then later you can have a revelation from the movie going shlubs that Immortus and Kang are really the super popular and very Famous Iron Lad.
"Wow! They're all the same damn person!"
brief timeline.
The Fantastic Four meet Pharaoh Rama Tut (30-something Kang) in October 1963.
The Avengers meet Kang in September 1964
The Avengers meet Immortus (Old ass Kang) in November 1964
The Squadron Supreme meet the Scarlet Centurion (Alternate Kang from Earth II) in July 1968
The young Avengers met Iron lad (teenage kang) in April 2005
The Fantastic Four met Kid Immortus (Also teenage kang) in June 2013.
There's more, but it's minutiae.
Maybe or maybe they're saving the Reed Richards connection for later on as a surprise reveal.
Just watched Iron Man II, where I saw the Invisible Woman kicking Stark's tires.
Something obscure you might have forgotten...
Pharaoh Rama-Tut timetraveled to Ancient Egypt to locate and exploit the X-Men Villain Apocalypse.
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As we saw with Sylvie, the TVA waited until she was a few years old before they took her. If her very birth itself was a nexus event, then they should have taken her right at the moment of her birth. The fact that they did not, implies that her birth was not a nexus event. Or maybe as a newborn she did not trigger a nexus event because she was too young to do anything of consequence that would alter the timeline. It is only when she got a bit older that she started causing a big enough change in the timeline to cause a nexus event and therefore to get noticed by the TVA.
So I am guessing simply being born different is not a nexus event, it is only when the Lokis start doing stuff that causes a big enough deviation in the sacred timeline, to cause a nexus event, that the TVA intervenes.
Also, remember that the TVA is only worried about nexus events that cross the red line because that means that the deviation from the sacred timeline has become so great that even the TVA can't reset it. So the TVA does not mind deviations from the sacred timeline as long as they are small enough. I am guessing whoever created the TVA just wants to protect the timeline that leads to their power. So they don't mind changes to the timeline that are small enough that they don't affect their power.
"Comic fans will notice the Frog of Thunder in that jar. We actually shot a scene for the Time Theater in Ep 1 of Loki getting pummeled by Frog Thor, but had to cut it to keep things moving. It’s too bad, because Tom was funny as hell. #LokiMidnightTheater"
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I hope they release that scene for us to enjoy!
We don’t know how long these timelines are actually allowed to go on before they are pruned.
For example, the timeline created by Thanos leaving years too early in Endgame needs to persist to that exact point in order for the holy timeline to turn out properly. And the timeline created by Loki escaping. But fragments of those timelines have to be left alone in order for the Avengers to get the infinity stones and reverse the snap.
It may be a point of significant cosmic uncertainty what form Loki takes, but they couldn’t prune them until they’d passed a point where they were needed to support the desired outcome. Just like those two divergent timelines created in Avengers needed to exist up to the point the Avengers left them.
For example, the timeline created by Thanos leaving years too early in Endgame needs to persist to that exact point in order for the holy timeline to turn out properly. And the timeline created by Loki escaping. But fragments of those timelines have to be left alone in order for the Avengers to get the infinity stones and reverse the snap.
It may be a point of significant cosmic uncertainty what form Loki takes, but they couldn’t prune them until they’d passed a point where they were needed to support the desired outcome. Just like those two divergent timelines created in Avengers needed to exist up to the point the Avengers left them.
Someone suggested in the Twitter thread that they should release Pruned Scenes reel (apparently there were a bunch of scenes that were cut). I would love that!
Guess it enough times, it'll eventually be true!
That's what I'm leaning towards after the last episode. Like it's not a "Sacred Timeline" in terms of being a single universe, but that all the many and varied alternate timelines have to proceed such that they all include the same key events (which are likely some self-serving list created by the person behind the curtain). So it's not a problem if there's a universe where the Gods of Asgard are all reptiles, so long as they, in the broad strokes, do all the things they're supposed to.
All of that sounds good but it keeps coming back to who determines what they're "suppose to do." How is that criteria determined?
We should start a rumor that Fisto is behind it all on the new He-Man cartoon.
Given that we know the TVA are liars, anything they said is meaningless. There is no 'Sacred Timeline' and there is a functioning multiverse.
Yup, pretty much, at least at the top. But it does beg the question of why did everyone in the bureaucracy just go along with it? Or were they all programed not to after their memories were wiped of being variants?
Me too, that sounds awesome!
Along with all of the other real world conspiracy references in the earlier episodes, there is also Polybus arcade cabinet in the Lokis' hideout in this week's episode. I'd never heard of it before, but apparently Polybus is a big urban legend in the arcade gaming community dating back to the '80s.
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