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Its a tough watch

In a season already four episodes short, it seemed bizarre to waste another slot.

Clip shows are about money and time, the two non-negotiable realities of the industry. It wasn't a "waste," it was a logistical calculation of how to compensate for the extra time and money spent on "Elementary" and "Q Who." It's like how TOS did "The Menagerie" (itself a clip show) as a 2-parter so they could get two episodes' worth of material for just one week's worth of filming and thus make up for the schedule overruns they'd accumulated. Look at all the shows that do clip episodes on a routine seasonal basis, like the Stargate shows or Showtime's Outer Limits (as bizarre as it was to do clip shows on an anthology series). Hercules and Xena were famous for the wild, crazy frames they concocted for their annual clip shows to keep them entertaining. The syndicated Superboy did two consecutive clip shows in its final season -- the first of which, surprisingly, was one of the best episodes of the series.

If anything, the anomaly is not "Shades of Gray" -- it's the fact that the Trek shows never did another clip show. Clip shows were business as usual in TV, so it's the absence of clip shows that's strange. "Shades of Gray" was just such an exceptionally dull and mediocre clip show, even by the standards of the time, that it drove the Trek producers to avoid doing another one, instead saving time and money by writing bottle shows light on guest stars and effects, like "The Drumhead" and "Duet." I suspect that "Shades" also prompted later shows' producers to try harder to make their clip shows interesting and worthwhile, whereas earlier clip shows generally tended to be quite dull and superficial, not that much different from "Shades."
 
Didn't Hercules or Xena, not sure which one but I think one of them not only broke the 4th wall but went beyond it with a chase out of the studio with the bad guys? I know they did that on Moonlighting more then once.
 
My ratings for Season 2:

(6) Meh *
(5) Continuity **
(9) Decent ***
(2) Good ****

The Child **
Where Silence Has Lease ***
Elementary, Dear Data ***
The Outrageous Okona *
Loud As A Whisper *
The Schizoid Man **
Unnatural Selection *
A Matter Of Honor ***
The Measure Of A Man ****
The Dauphin ***
Contagion ***
The Royale *
Time Squared ***
The Icarus Factor **
Pen Pals **
Q Who ****
Samaritan Snare **
Up The Long Ladder *
Manhunt **
The Emissary ***
Peak Performance ***
Shades of Gray *

Watch the 2 bolded **** titles,
maybe the 9 underlined *** titles,
for continuity the 5 plain ** titles,
and for completeness the 6 italicized * titles.
 
I watched a Lwaxana Troi episode today. I usually avoid those but this time I didn't..... I didn't mind this particular one it was "Cost Of Living" and she's not bad..
 
I was suprised that Season 2 wasn't as bad as I remember. There's some really good episodes in it, although there's still plenty of awful ones like "The Royale" and "Up the Long Ladder". Those were very painful to watch.

I noticed that some of the endings and climaxes are awkward and sudden, like either the show ran off screentime or the writers were struggling to end the episode. Good examples of this are "A Matter of Honor", "Contagion" and "Times Squared" where the climaxes seems to go into warp 10 and just ends all of the sudden. Or for instance, "Elementary, Dear Data" it ends with Picard and Geordi talking, which I find it very odd, considering that the episode is more about Data, meaning it should've ended with Data talking to Geordi in order to put a nice little bow on the whole thing. Overall, those are solid episodes.
 
At least Times Squared ends with Picard killing other Picard that's at least different.

Just finished Time's Arrow and Relics and both are among my favourite bits of TNG. I felt sorry for poor old Scotty though. Ooh Schisms is next and True Q. Yay....

Snick snick snick that episode gives me the heebee geebees
 
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I was suprised that Season 2 wasn't as bad as I remember. There's some really good episodes in it, although there's still plenty of awful ones like "The Royale" and "Up the Long Ladder". Those were very painful to watch.

I noticed that some of the endings and climaxes are awkward and sudden, like either the show ran off screentime or the writers were struggling to end the episode. Good examples of this are "A Matter of Honor", "Contagion" and "Times Squared" where the climaxes seems to go into warp 10 and just ends all of the sudden. Or for instance, "Elementary, Dear Data" it ends with Picard and Geordi talking, which I find it very odd, considering that the episode is more about Data, meaning it should've ended with Data talking to Geordi in order to put a nice little bow on the whole thing. Overall, those are solid episodes.
I've always been oddly fond of "The Royale." Can't put my finger on why.
 
For me it was too TOS…we got the Nazi planet, the Roman planet, the Cowboy planet, now the Old Casino planet. I could enjoy that in the campiness of TOS, but not in the more stone-faced early TNG. I wanted so much to better know the 24th century (the one that was lost with the nixing of the spandex uniforms) to spend any time with an actually sad seedy setting that gets over-romanticized. …Vic’s on DS9 had its moments but it often annoyed me as well.
 
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For me it was too TOS…we got the Nazi planet, the Roman planet, the Cowboy planet, now the Old Casino planet. I could enjoy that in the campiness of TOS, but not in the more stone-faced early TNG.

I think that's why I liked it -- because it was more offbeat than their usual stuff.

And rather than TOS, I think "The Royale" could be seen as a riff on Ray Bradbury, after a fashion. One of his stories in The Martian Chronicles involved astronauts on Mars finding a recreation of small-down life on Earth because the Martians were reading their minds and projecting what they wanted to see. "The Royale" was like that, except the aliens picked a terrible novel to communicate with instead, which is funny.
 
For me it was too TOS…we got the Nazi planet, the Roman planet, the Cowboy planet, now the Old Casino planet. I could enjoy that in the campiness of TOS, but not in the more stone-faced early TNG

I reallly like the TOS campiness, but I have no idea why those types of stories didn't worked on TNG. Perhaps because early TNG took itself too seriously and was often dry and cold? TOS embraced this aspect and knew that you don't have to take everything seriously with episodes like "A Piece of the Action" and "Shore Leave". At least up until season 3...
 
My wife and I did a first watch of S2. I thought it was decent. Pulaski was nowhere near as inimical to Data as I was led to believe, and overall I prefer her to Crusher because Crusher's pretty bland. Another nice-personality officer.

We then went in to S3 for our Friday Trek lunch. After a couple I called it off and we switched to VOY, which I've always preferred. I just couldn't take more of Data-"humor"-misunderstanding Earth idioms and being pedantically corrected. Nor the horror show that is the character of Troi. And Ms. Sirtis' accent and acting.

Just couldn't take more TNG.

YMMV and certainly does. (Esp where my preference to VOY comes in. I just find the characters more interesting and fun.) Be well.
 
My wife and I did a first watch of S2. I thought it was decent. Pulaski was nowhere near as inimical to Data as I was led to believe, and overall I prefer her to Crusher because Crusher's pretty bland. Another nice-personality officer.

We then went in to S3 for our Friday Trek lunch. After a couple I called it off and we switched to VOY, which I've always preferred. I just couldn't take more of Data-"humor"-misunderstanding Earth idioms and being pedantically corrected. Nor the horror show that is the character of Troi. And Ms. Sirtis' accent and acting.

Just couldn't take more TNG.

YMMV and certainly does. (Esp where my preference to VOY comes in. I just find the characters more interesting and fun.) Be well.

Just a couple into Season 3? But they're the two worst episodes of the season :o

What about selecting the best ones:
Who Watches the Watchers (unless you're deeply religious)
The Defector
Yesterdays Enterprise
Sarek
TBOBW
 
There are at least three things wrong with this reply. Can you spot them?
:p :p :p
One, it isn't odd to like TOS (save maybe in the TNG forum). Two, they like Voyager. Three, they were up until 11 PM my time which is just ridiculous ;)
I just couldn't take more of Data-"humor"-misunderstanding Earth idioms and being pedantically corrected. Nor the horror show that is the character of Troi. And Ms. Sirtis' accent and acting.
Yeah, I thought starting in S3 on an attempted rewatch would be easy. It has not been such.
 
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