They were Cardassian computers though!
Things You Didn't Notice In Star Trek Until Years Later
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They were Cardassian computers though!
I never noticed that there was a nice mountain background on Mt Selya in TSFS until years later. It didn't show up well in standard definition and all smaller screens. I always thought it was kind of a cheap, unconvincing set that was bascally just "orange."
Turns out, there is some nice background detail there that reminds us that this indeed takes place on top of a majestic mountain.
Turns out, there is some nice background detail there that reminds us that this indeed takes place on top of a majestic mountain.
Gary Mitchell does something similar in WNMHGB when Kirk says "Address intercraft." Mitchell sort of swipes at the console, but doesn't explicitly press a button or control.
Cool little details!
One of my favorite little moments, he's so relaxed and almost bored there XD
In the episode where a crew member killed himself by jumping in the matter stream of the nacelle, there was a part Betazoid character (not half like Troi, maybe a quarter Betazoid) who had black eyes, I think. But in an earlier episode where you had that negotiator Devonni Ral who was part Betazoid, he had blue eyes.
Or a sonic bidet. Your butt gets clean without getting wet.
Something I noticed today, watching Progress.
Progress - Treachery, Faith and the Great River is a complete arc for Nog. All the things Nog does in order to get O'Brien what he needs is based on the lesson he learned from Progress.
Progress - Treachery, Faith and the Great River is a complete arc for Nog. All the things Nog does in order to get O'Brien what he needs is based on the lesson he learned from Progress.
No. I get why it would appear that way. But there's someone sitting at the station working the controls who is out of the frame. The hand gesture is a signal to her to "change the slide."
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IIRC, @Maurice has the wider shot that shows the operator.
In If Wishes Were Horses, they say in the 2042 world series there were 300 people in the stands.
That's super optimistic about the popularity of baseball in 2042.
That's super optimistic about the popularity of baseball in 2042.
That's a touchpad, not a mouse!
I don't understand what's so 'enlightened' about both man and a woman using the same bathroom.
That's been pretty much the norm in large portions of the world for a while by the time that episode originally aired.
We know that holodecks and technology in the 32nd century seems to have a mental component to them - probably due to wireless neural interfaces.
And I suspect 24th century works more in a predictive algorithm based way (albeit far more advanced and better at predicting what we might do compared to what we do in real life). I suspect the computer acquires people's data all the time, but doesn't share it with anyone (no corporations or money for this to happen - no real incentive to share this data)... the process is there for user benefit only... and captains might be able to get access to this data, but this happens on extremely rare occasions and only as a last resort (if there is no other option) as personal privacy is emphasized (no real rules to break it, but people who could get access [such as senior staff] generally dislike the notion of poking into people's private lives).
We've seen that when Tuvok was blinded by a Krenim torpedo in Year of Hell, he activated a tactile interface... so the consoles do have the ability to become physical and change shape as needed... phase changing materials would be able to do this... and proposals have been made to create a smartphone with a touchscreen which can create 'bumps' for blind people in the shapes needed to understand what to press and navigate via touch only.
Plus, in the 24th century, I suspect the beeping noises the consoles make have a play in it too. Its a combo of audio and visual stimuli that possibly help people memorize their consoles easier and could potentially navigate them blindly on sound alone without tactile interface.
But pretty much all functions can be done verbally at that point anyway... they just don't do it... and it wasn't until towards the end of Voyager that they started dabbling on a larger scale with mental interfaces (but I suspect it started with Barclay's experience in TNG).
Albeit, we'll have mental interfaces with machines commercially pretty soon as we're already doing successful trials with controlling machines (and prosthetics) with thoughts.
Geordi getting impatient and constantly reformulating his demands to the computer is a bit stupid. he's supposed to have worked with computers all his life, he should be an expert at handling them... plus the computer should be a lot smarter than in the pitiful exchanges that we're shown. Data should be able to interface with the computer directly with the 24th-century version of a wifi connection and so wouldn't need to use a keyboard or even talk to it.
Transporting pads on foot makes about as much sense as sending telegrams today using smoke signals... IOW it's idiotic.
Transporting pads on foot makes about as much sense as sending telegrams today using smoke signals... IOW it's idiotic.
clearly the wrong thread, as if the one isn't enough XD
In the penultimate episode of Lower Decks' first season, Boimler creates a realistic holodeck program utilizing the crew's personal logs, and discovers some info that was a big secret to the crew. I suspect he either illegally accessed them or had access to them as part of his duties (administrative data or something). I've also thought that, perhaps, the computer uses personal logs to create accurate representations of the crew for similar tactical benefit. It might share this data with other Starfleet computers or the Federation-wide network, but under a veil of mild privacy restrictions that Boimler broke in that episode.
I mean, personal logs being made accessible by others than the creator is pretty well confirmed by "In the Pale Moonlight" and Sisko's erasing his personal log of the events of that episode.
Lower Decks does things in a more exaggerated capacity. Though, Boimler's original idea was to recreate the crew so that they would respond in as realistic manner as possible for training purposes.
But yeah, I think he DID breach decorum of sorts.
I doubt that he read everyone's personal logs though... it was probably more along the lines of: 'Computer, use personal logs of the crew to recreate their behavior on the holodeck for training purposes... authorization: whatever'.
He's still human and has those pesky emotions he hates...
The computer should be better than all that, I agree.
Why would Data have the equivalent of 24th century wifi? Soong worked on his own and didn't have the schematics. Or likely wouldn't; Starfleet would have its own isolated channel system anyway. Did Data build it on its own, from component level? Would you let your own "AI" creation start building whatever it wanted on its own, noting that even Bender the friendly anti-human robot doesn't? (Okay, this is Star Trek where Kirk was nagging computers to death all while, in real life, algorithms to prevent a looping function from rendering a computer useless could be done to a certain degree, and a lot easier to do a couple decades later. Never mind computers don't explode when you tell them to get stuck in a loop. I'm just glad Spock told the computer to calculate Pi to the final digit and not Kirk, but that one's as given as the morning dew, which isn't good for computers either...)
He's still human and has those pesky emotions he hates...
The computer should be better than all that, I agree.
Why would Data have the equivalent of 24th century wifi? Soong worked on his own and didn't have the schematics. Or likely wouldn't; Starfleet would have its own isolated channel system anyway. Did Data build it on its own, from component level? Would you let your own "AI" creation start building whatever it wanted on its own, noting that even Bender the friendly anti-human robot doesn't? (Okay, this is Star Trek where Kirk was nagging computers to death all while, in real life, algorithms to prevent a looping function from rendering a computer useless could be done to a certain degree, and a lot easier to do a couple decades later. Never mind computers don't explode when you tell them to get stuck in a loop. I'm just glad Spock told the computer to calculate Pi to the final digit and not Kirk, but that one's as given as the morning dew, which isn't good for computers either...)
The problem with calculating PI to that last digit is that you can't even begin!! All the formulas and algorithms for the calculation of Pi have one thing in common, you need to make ALL the calculations with the number of digits that you wish to obtain in the end. For example, if you wish to have, say 1000 digits. Then you need to do all your operations with 1000 digits. You have to reserve that memory BEFORE you even begin. So if you want an infinite number of digits you need an infinite memory. The computer would say "I am sorry sir, but I don't have enough memory". Of course, you can't expect that from people who never were anywhere near a computer and only know them by reputation , if that.
There is a similar one with Picard holding an alien artifact.
Take a look at Riker's face. I bet they laughed about it between takes.
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A nice little retcon could be that the whole obsidian console surface is a dark screen…with raised buttons being “execute” solenoids or something.
I like to think about a hostile bridge, where everyone sits with their back to a vat containing their leader…all in a big circle.
They really don’t want to have their chair turn to face the gorgon. In the distance, shadows advance and receed, taking away victims. The console raises up utility gel. As they remotely control a fighter, any damage to the ‘bot is a cut or bite to the finger…Moffat would be proud.
There is no need for a bridge with bio-automation…this is all playing with one’s food…a test for depravity.
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