Plot holes.

[Swedish Borg]

Let's start with one that I find particularly grating.

DS9, "A Man Alone": They find no DNA, no evidence that someone else was in the holosuite at the same time as the murdered man, yet, none of them consider the possibility that he could have been killed... by a hologram!!!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

The safety protocols would prevent that.

And even if those protocols were disabled...a hologram could only kill if it had been programmed to do so, and the crew could track down who did that.

 

[BK613]

Given that cloning is known and works in the ST universe, eliminating the suspicion that a murder victim is a clone should be part of the standard autopsy.

 

[Finn]

Let's start with one that I find particularly grating.

DS9, "A Man Alone": They find no DNA, no evidence that someone else was in the holosuite at the same time as the murdered man, yet, none of them consider the possibility that he could have been killed... by a hologram!!!

Yeah like MLB said, there would have been evidence of that, in the programming

 

[Tosk]

The safety protocols would prevent that.

And even if those protocols were disabled...a hologram could only kill if it had been programmed to do so, and the crew could track down who did that.

And even if all that weren't true, it still wouldn't be a plot hole because "characters not thinking of something" isn't necessarily a plot hole.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Yeah like MLB said, there would have been evidence of that, in the programming

Unless the murderer had brought his own program rod and then ended it and put Quark's rod in its stead.

 

[Swedish Borg]

And even if all that weren't true, it still wouldn't be a plot hole because "characters not thinking of something" isn't necessarily a plot hole.

Remember that Quark has a box of rods with different programs on them. If the killer put temporarily his own program and then after the murder put Quark's instead. NO one would know.

 

[Finn]

You are making assumptions about how IT works in a fictional alien space station. We don't really know how the computer systems on that fictional station works. Quark probably put in some kind of precaution to make sure nobody put in a program without his knowledge.

We don't know enough to call it a plot hole.

 

[Swedish Borg]

You are assuming it would leave no trace. We don't really know how the computer systems on that fictional station works. Plus the computer have have registered a rod being switched then put back in...

Quark probably put in some kind of precaution to make sure nobody put in a program without his knowledge.

We don't know enough to call it a plot hole.

We know that no one said a word about it. That's enough of an indictment. You'd that would be one of the things they'd have to rule out in a case like this. Like in one of Holmes's novels when there is an obvious solution and nothing is said about it. That's something the author never thought about.

 

[Finn]

We know that no one said a word about it. That's enough of an indictment. You'd that would be one of the things they'd have to rule out in a case like this. Like in one of Holmes's novels when there is an obvious solution and nothing is said about it. That's something the author never thought about.

Not really a plot hole. This is quite overthinking, and splitting hair, especially since it turned the victim was the clone of the killer...no need to put in lines and plot devices that they don't really need. We have enough of that.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Not really a plot hole. This is quite overthinking, and splitting hair, especially since it turned the victim was the clone of the killer...no need to put in lines and plot devices that they don't really need. We have enough of that.

Like When Ezri ( and Joran) said. Pictures of happy people, that means someone who hates emotions, so THE KILLER IS A VULCAN!! That's not a plot hole, that a big hole with no plot around to speak of.

First of all, who the hell doesn't have pictures of happy people!!!

Do you know of many people who hang pictures of sad faces?

 

[Finn]

Like When Ezri ( and Joran) said. Pictures of happy people, that means someone who hates emotions, so THE KILLER IS A VULCAN!! That's not a plot hole, that a big hole with no plot around to speak of.

What?

 

[Swedish Borg]

What?

Don't tell me you never saw that one.

 

[Finn]

Of, course I've seen it, several times.

I know it wasn't exactly logical. But it's not really a plot hole.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Of, course I've seen it, several times.

I know it wasn't exactly logical. But it's not really a plot hole.

Seriously? You call that an investigation?

How many pictures of your relatives or friends do you have where they're not at least smiling?

Calling that episode a cheat is doing it a favor.

 

[Finn]

Not really a plot hole. The investigation suggested the pictures would have been in the view of the shooter, IIRC.

reaching, yes, but I wouldn't call it a plothole.

 

[Swedish Borg]

Not really a plot hole. The investigation suggested the pictures would have been in the view of the shooter, IIRC.

reaching, yes, but I wouldn't call it a plothole.

Give me an example of what you would call a plot hole, a real one. In literature, movies, series.... anything!!!

 

[Finn]

I cut off Netflix a while back so I can't check the episode, but I think there were certain variables discussed, including who could handle that rifle, and who aboard the station could be experiencing some kind of intense pain, like war-battered Vulcans who actualy have intense emotions they have to keep in check.

It's just a show. There are plenty of plot holes in Trek and beyond. Both examples you mentioned aren't two of them.

 

[Swedish Borg]

I cut off Netflix a while back so I can't check the episode, but I think there were certain episodes, including who could handle that rifle, and who aboard the station could be experiencing some kind of intense pain, like war-battered Vulcans who actualy have intense emotions they have to keep in check.

It's just a show. There are plenty of plot holes in Trek and beyond. Both examples you mentioned aren't two of them.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Finn]

Give me an example of what you would call a plot hole, a real one. In literature, movies, series.... anything!!!

Alright, Data using contractions, when his being unable to use contractions was the main plot of an early TNG episode. IIRC, Data actually used a contraction in that episode.