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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard General Discussion Thread

Considering how much blowback the first season got from killing off minor characters like Hugh and Icheb just for teh dramaz, this would be an absolutely awful choice to kick off season 2.

Edit: I mean, they would be fucked both ways. Either they don't , make a big deal out of it, and it comes across as cheap drama, or they give it weight...and it's Season 1's Data plot all over again.
Yeah, I don't see many people dying this upcoming season.
 
I would have no problem with killing off a character, but after killing off maddox, hugh, and icheb, it will be a case of rinse and repeat and thats not what most people might want I suspect.
aside from Hugh, who gives a flying fuck about those killed off characters? Kill more of them, I say
 
aside from Hugh, who gives a flying fuck about those killed off characters? Kill more of them, I say
It's not a matter of caring any more. It's a matter of how wrong Picard's writers were for killing people in the first place. I don't believe for a second that these characters were as beloved as indicated until they were killed. Then it became an amplifying affect of declaring Picard "not real Star Trek" (trademark pending) and creating a measure of psychological distance between beloved Star Trek and new Star Trek.

But, the plus side is that the fan letter to Meyer and Bennett regarding the killing of Spock seems run of the mill now.
 
Granted, I try to repress all memories of VOY but I had to google Icheb after that episode. That's how big an impact he made. at least with Maddox I knew he was that guy from the court room drama episode
 
The death of the tng character may not happen in the present.... but in an alternate past timeline...yet there was s enough there to effectively change the course of history forever
 
I believe this rumor almost as much as I believed that Burnham and Spock (as portrayed by a CGI Nimoy) would meet up in Disco season 3.
 
LOL! The drive-by rumor bombs are hysterical.

The whole (second chances) temptation to change something significant (like a death) in the past, and all the ramifications (for better or worse), that comes with, is pretty much exactly what the Season2 trailer telegraphs they will be exploring.
"Time offers so many opportunities, but never second chances."
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And a second chance at a death, opportunity to change or keep someone from dying, at the expense of altering the time-line, is often the most significant, taboo, and go-to narrative, for the sort of "trial" Q would offer.
"....the trial never ends"

So that they might visit a moment of a significant and meaningful character death that impacts the story, is no great surprise or revelation:lol:.
Either you or whoever is feeding you this supposed insight is the most generic, un-creative source,
Or it's the writers who already inferred what they would be exploring from the go.:)
 
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And a second chance at a death, opportunity to change or keep someone from dying, at the expense of altering the time-line, is often the most significant, taboo, and go-to narrative, for the sort of "trial" Q would offer.

Maybe in the first episode, Q prevents Dahj from being killed. The remainder of the season is Picard sitting at that table in his vineyard, sipping wine.
 
KennyB posted this over in General Trek, but Doug Drexler is involved with Picard Season 2 in some way
Looks like he's working as a contractor on the production designers team.......not directly for CBS/Secret Hideout but for David Blass.
 
"....the trial never ends"
Picard: Take it up with Riker, Q. I'm a synth now and technically not part of humanity anymore. Whatever business you have with a trial of humanity doesn't involve me anymore.
Q: But according to TrekBBS forum, your memory engrams were transferred, not copied or created.
So that still makes you an ongoing Part of Humanity, ...J'Accuse!
Picard: Then let the battle continue,...enga001011100100ge!
 
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Looks like he's working as a contractor on the production designers team.......not directly for CBS/Secret Hideout but for David Blass.
Wouldn't be the first time. Back during Voyager's run he was working for Foundation Imaging, not Paramount. Which was the only time (until now it seems) that he wasn't working directly for the production company while working on Trek.
 
I I dont care if their relationship was good or bad, that is not the point, not do I care if seven is now bi, straight or whatever, it is how seven was last seen with chakotay, no matter how dull you think he is, you would have thought there would have been some sort of reference.
You are not wrong.
Clearly the writers just want to move her as quick as possible to where, and what, they want the character to be, and what they want to write about, regardless of what came before.

So it's probably for the best they said nothing. You are going to have to imagine for yourself what became of Chakotay, and if you envision some grand denouement for the character, it's probably for the best you should, because if there is some forthcoming exposition dump from these writers of what became of him, I doubt it will be there to satisfy any fans of the character.
It'll just be there to emphasis how insignificant Chakotay was, so they can justify their choice.

Personally I'm going to imagine he went back in time and got eaten by a couple of LA swingers? Seven likley joined them, then moved on.
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(from the Chakotay and Seven thread^, didn't know there was one? neither did most)


Then you had picard becoming an android, which to me seems like something the character picard would have been against judging by what we saw of him in his 7 years of tng and the movies.
Again you are not wrong, that there should be some anxiety or pathos about becoming a Synthetic being. Especially since the "choice" wasn't his.
Yet regarding Picard and the Borg, it wasn't so much about altering his body, but more about retaining his individual thoughts (memories), consciousness, experiences, and free will. And that seems to have been satisfied in his discussion with Data.
So I would say that they pulled that off.
As far as a satisfying story arc for the character (Death! no surprise, ...synthetic! With a built in expiration)), it was pretty laughable and meaningless though.

That they already publicly announced they would not explore or address it further, speaks to that.
 
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Hell, Kirk slept with enough women to fill his Nexus reality if he'd wanted and we rarely got mentions of anyone after their one appearance.
Indeed...even Edith Keeler, whom fans and tie-in media have invested so much into putting on a pedestal as Kirk's one, true love...never mentioned or even alluded to again.
 
There's a story she was meant to be his Nexus love but there were issues with the character and with Joan Collins returning to reprise her role and they just nixed the idea and instead opted for the Antonia character.
 
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