Spoilers Janeway revealed
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You just described Tuvix.
Could have gotten there with Quantum slipstream drive. Either Version 1 (60 000 Ly's in 3 months for long durations - shorter trips 300 Ly's per hour)... or Version 2 which needed degrading benamite crystals that Starfleet had the ability to synthesize in a few years time using technology from 2374 (10 000 Ly's per minute).
DSC establishes that no one could find a better power source for warp travel than dilithium (or a better way to travel than standard warp) for 900 years.
Ugh, don't go there with this. Another rant coming regarding how unrealistic such an extrapolation by the Federation is in coming.
That's writer ineptitude/lack of creativity... not my fault they intentionally ignored what was well established on Voyager (also, Quantum Slipstream was mentioned by Booker as something he COULD do, but he didn't have any Benamite crystals or the ability to make them - which is again idiotic because the technology to make them in years existed in late 24th century... and its a process that SF would have likely massively enhanced in the few years to decades after Voyager's return - basically, Quantum Slipstream should have been more or less a standard method of propulsion by the time of Star Trek Picard) - again, not my fault a whole team of DSC writers lack imagination or the knowledge what happened before.
Plus, the 31st century has programmable matter which can make pretty much anything. The notion that (or 31st century replicators) can't make synthetic benamite crystals (or dilithium crystals) is actually preposterous.
Also, Dilithium is not a source of power. M/AM is. Dilithium is simply used to channel/stabilize those reactions.
Other power sources were presented in TNG as being developed by the Federation and VOY encountered new power sources too... again, not my problem that the writers chose to ignore these things and exponential developments in science and technology which would have happened for UFP... for the sake of stupid drama.
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I didn't say it was your fault. I pointed out what was established in DSC which might affect what we're hypothesizing about how the ship with the Janeway hologram could have gotten to the Delta Quadrant.
And I've provided a VIABLE explanation for that era.
As I said, DSC fudged with well established technologies in the 31st century due to lack of creativity... and also chose to ignore what already worked in the 24th (these people apparently have 0 concept of time or just how much of a time is a mere decade... nevermind 100 years, or even 930 years).
Look at the Spore Drive. It became top secret in the mid 23rd century and everyone went on their merry way as if it never existed shortly after DSC vanished (or was proclaimed 'destroyed').
Quantum Slipstream v1 or v2 could have entered mainstream just a few years after Voyager returned and then something could have happened long past that point (say, just by the time of Picard) that made the details behind advances in technology (and overcoming of minor issues) either top secret, or something else - in fact, the Voyager novels (which aren't canon) explicitly focus on Quantum Slipstream for project Full Circle (I'm just putting it as an example of what might have happened).
So, for the time frame this ship is set in... Quantum Slipstream would work as a technology that could have brought that SF ship to the Delta Quadrant.
The premise behind this cartoon reminds me of a fanfiction someone wrote here a long time ago.
It was about a group of teens in the 30th or 31st century who discover a Starfleet ship after its automated signal was picked up by a half-Borg teen's implants (or something to that effect).
There was no Janeway as a training hologram in that fanfiction, etc... but the premise behind teens finding a SF ship in the DQ... dead on.
And again, I’m not arguing about your explanation. I’m just pointing out the facts. Honestly, anything is up in the air as we know extremely little about this show or what’s going to happen in it other than pics of the CGI characters and CGI Janeway.
Who cares what DSC establishes?
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Whether one cares about it is irrelevant. It was established in a Trek show. That’s why I pointed it out. Whether Prodigy contradicts it is up to the writers. This is a kids’ show. I don’t know how strict they’re going to be with canon. But both shows are produced by CBSAA and are being written concurrently with each other, so there’s a much greater chance of things being consistent than, say, TOS to DSC, which is barely consistent.
I also pointed out the facts about QS drive which were established on-screen on VOY (which is canon)... so I don't see the problem.
I can easily point out problems and canonical errors DSC made in its third season, so taking too much stock that everything else didn't pan out could easily be retconned in the 4th season (and besides, all Trek series completely violated canon from one episode to the next - TOS being a prime example).
For all we know, QS drive V2 became very popular to use, but the Burn caused problems in regards to production of benamite crystals for example - which would explain why a SF ship in the late 24th century wound up in the Delta Quadrant and its limited to practically 0 use in the 24th century.
