In "That which Survives" the TOS Enterprise travels at Warp 14.1
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What's the worst canon decision in the history of Trek?
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Wasn't that a cut line from the script, or something? Or is that them working out the "correct" warp factor from 1000 light years in 12 hours (even though the episode explictly says it's warp 8.4 to cover that distance in that time)?
For me the mirror universe is an issue, that the same people manage to end up working together despite them being totally different personalities
in reality the chances those people even being born is unlikely as in a different universe people would likely not even meet their partners or have sex at the exact time and so on..
in reality the chances those people even being born is unlikely as in a different universe people would likely not even meet their partners or have sex at the exact time and so on..
But in reality there wouldn't be a ben sisko either.
To create the Kelvin Timeline as a convoluted offshoot, thus cementing across two successors to the Bermanverse just how important it is to invoke the canon in interviews and bend it as far as you can without (arguably) breaking it, because you’re (also) going for an audience that understands and cares about such things as opposed to trying to reach new audiences entirely.
LOL!!! Good one!
Bad writing. The Picard we see at the end is the real Picard, the one we know and admire. The early on one was the "artificial source of conflict" Picard. We'll lump him in with the "9-year-old kid who just needs a stint in a time-out chair" Archer and the "you're not to warn these people" Janeway.
Because the Mirror Universe is not a "Parallels" alternate timeline. It operates on a set of principles all its own.
Btw, does anyone actually want the Terran rebellion to win? Because we've seen what happens when they're in charge. I say the best case scenario is for the Terrans and the Alliance to blast each other's civilizations back to the pre-industrial age, and the Ferengi (who seem relatively benign there) to take over.
Ironically, the mirror universe we see on DISCOVERY paints the Terrans to be rathee afraid all the time, which would explain their excess in violence and power.
Seeing them as slaves for a century might have made them better people once they defeat the Alliance.
Seeing them as slaves for a century might have made them better people once they defeat the Alliance.
Well, yes, of course. But that would be the real world reason, and I was looking for an in-universe explanation.
Uhhh. You have to make it difficult.
Ok... Picard had just had some really bad nightmares about his Borgification. Then, when he woke up, Beverly had an emergency call and couldn't make breakfast with him. He tried to eat alone, but the replicator in his quarters malfunctioned, so his croissant tasted like library paste, and his coffee was like turpentine, and when he tried to make a cup of Earl Grey, the unit exploded, showering him with debris and filling his quarters with a cloud of smoke that smelled like Worf's prune juice flatulence and forcing him to flee his quarters before he asphyxiated in agony. Last of all, on his way to the bridge, Spot had escaped from Data's quarters and Picard tripped over her, twisting his ankle. So he was in a really crappy mood at the moment, and he decided "you know what? Screw the @*$#!-ing Borallans."
In TAS they go beyond warp 30!!! I guess at that speed (given that it's a nonlinear scale) you could pass the galaxy so fast that you won't be able to see it.
Indeed, but doesn't that suggest that there should be people in the MU that don't have a counterpart in this universe?
About Janeway: She's really a piece of work, isn't she?
In "The Chute": She threatens to deliver two kids to one of the most awful "justice" systems imaginable unless.... and this is really good... they help her effect a jailbreak against that same justice system, UNCONDITIONALLY and to add purulent injury to injury she shoots the other inmates in the process because of course although Tom and Harry are innocent, the others are all guilty and deserve to be there!!!
Talk about taking the prime directive into your own hands!!!
In "The Chute": She threatens to deliver two kids to one of the most awful "justice" systems imaginable unless.... and this is really good... they help her effect a jailbreak against that same justice system, UNCONDITIONALLY and to add purulent injury to injury she shoots the other inmates in the process because of course although Tom and Harry are innocent, the others are all guilty and deserve to be there!!!
Talk about taking the prime directive into your own hands!!!
Like Kai Winn being not a Kai in the MU, with a bunch of children.......
In the MU Winn and Dukat are actually a couple with many children.
Regarding speeds, don't forget that the Federation is supposed to be 8000 ly across. Assuming Earth is more or less at the center, and assuming the cruising speed of warp 8 (1000c) set by Voyager (70,000 ly = 70 years travel), then if a human officer returns to earth from the edge of Federation space, it's a four-year journey, or an eight-year round trip.
And while we're on the subject, warp 9.975 is 5000c. Even assuming a cruise speed of 70% of her top sustainable speed, Voyager should have only required 20 years to make her journey, maybe 22 or 23 allowing for refueling, first contacts, and course changes to avoid Vidiians or Borg.
And while we're on the subject, warp 9.975 is 5000c. Even assuming a cruise speed of 70% of her top sustainable speed, Voyager should have only required 20 years to make her journey, maybe 22 or 23 allowing for refueling, first contacts, and course changes to avoid Vidiians or Borg.
Well in "Resolutions" Janway and Chak spend more than a month on a planet, at what point Voyager makes a U-turn and picks them up. So that means zero light-years in TWO months. At that speed it's a wonder they managed to get back at all.
And in Time and Again, Janeway say to head for home at "Warp 6". That's about 400c. For perspective, that's like driving your turbocharged Honda Civic (top speed rated at 137 mph) along at a leisurely 11. That's parking lot speed.
EDIT: (As an aside, if we assume that the episode is chronological, Voyager didn't reach Janeway and Chakotay until 6 weeks after the "handholding and sultry gaze" scene. You do wonder what Janeway and Chakotay were doing during that time...
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EDIT: (As an aside, if we assume that the episode is chronological, Voyager didn't reach Janeway and Chakotay until 6 weeks after the "handholding and sultry gaze" scene. You do wonder what Janeway and Chakotay were doing during that time...
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