Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread

[antinoos]

Or maybe it's the rock-looking big guy. Didn't Shatner want to use rock aliens in TFF? Isn't there a deleted scene with Rock Man or something like that?

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Or he's a Excalibian.

Oh, yeah, that would make more sense.

...that said, I'm still going for the left field, bonkers idea!

 

[Bornin1980something]

I'm mildly disappointed that Janeway is a hologram rather than really Janeway, but it's not a big deal. I'm more excited about the Delta Quadrant 2383 setting. That leaves open the possibility of seeing DQ species from Voyager and maybe some ramifications of Voyager's trip. Of course, I don't expect it to be heavy on continuity, given that its primary demographic wasn't born when Voyager was on the air.

I have been saying for while (in private) that the time of the Ocampa will come.

 

[dupersuper]

You know, I hate all that time difference. I remember when, in the late 1990s, it was the 24th century. All shows and movies took place in the same time, at the same pace, even 70,000 lightyears apart. Much of the merchandise also kept up, allowing you to aquire the 'latest' map of the galaxy.

This ended with Enterprise, though some hoped that would be an anomaly. Today, however, it's all over the place. Even worse, we know how it will all end, in The Burn.

It's not that. The Burn didn't really affect my feelings on preexisting shows (though there have been incidents like Fury and the Icheb gouging which dented my feelings on preexisting stories and characters).

No, this is closer to creating a whole new show around a character after establishing that he comes to a terrible end. Only it's worse, because it is now established that all the progress since the 23rd century has basically come to nothing, and only Michael Burnham Allmighty can get them back on track.

But...the burn wasn't the end...

Why do we have teaser trailers for stuff that hasn't aired yet?

You'd wait until after shows start before you started advertising them?

Or maybe it's the rock-looking big guy. Didn't Shatner want to use rock aliens in TFF? Isn't there a deleted scene with Rock Man or something like that?

They already showed up in Lower Decks.

 

[captainkirk]

I'm mildly disappointed that Janeway is a hologram rather than really Janeway, but it's not a big deal. I'm more excited about the Delta Quadrant 2383 setting. That leaves open the possibility of seeing DQ species from Voyager and maybe some ramifications of Voyager's trip. Of course, I don't expect it to be heavy on continuity, given that its primary demographic wasn't born when Voyager was on the air.

I could see them doing a story where the teens encounter a planet that's been thrown into chaos due to Voyager's influence where Janeway is hated, and it calls everything they've learned about the Federation and Janeway into question.

 

[F. King Daniel]

That leaves open the possibility of seeing DQ species from Voyager and maybe some ramifications of Voyager's trip.

Let's see what them Kazons have been up to!

*room empties*

 

[Christopher]

Why do we have teaser trailers for stuff that hasn't aired yet?

That is literally what "teaser" means...

 

[dupersuper]

I could see them doing a story where the teens encounter a planet that's been thrown into chaos due to Voyager's influence where Janeway is hated, and it calls everything they've learned about the Federation and Janeway into question.

So...plenty to choose from...

 

[Dukhat]

I really wish people would actually read the posts I respond to before taking my responses to those posts out of context.

 

[fireproof78]

I really wish people would actually read the posts I respond to before taking my responses to those posts out of context.

Very well.

So the show takes place in the Delta Quadrant? That would explain why none of the characters look like typical Alpha Quadrant species. But why would there be an abandoned Starfleet vessel in the Delta Quadrant in 2383, much less one with Janeway as a hologram aboard?

The answer is we don't know. And possibly won't know until the show airs because I imagine that is part of the story is either figuring out why the ship is there or were it came from, from the point of view of the main cast, aside from Janeway hologram.

 

[Dukhat]

I’m sure CBS will give more information prior to the show debuting.

 

[fireproof78]

Maybe.

 

[Quinton]

Let's see what them Kazons have been up to!

*room empties*

Get back here, you! I actually care!

A tiny bit...

 

[137th Gebirg]

I would only care if the entire Kazon whatevertheycallthemselves got completely 100% assimilated by the Borg.

Care enough to laugh my ass off.

 

[Christopher]

I would only care if the entire Kazon whatevertheycallthemselves got completely 100% assimilated by the Borg.

Don't you remember? Seven said the Borg rejected them as unworthy of assimilation.

 

[Nerys Myk]

They should have Kazon cosplaying as Borg, trying to convince everyone they got assimilated.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Don't you remember? Seven said the Borg rejected them as unworthy of assimilation.

I did forget about that. TBH, I've tried to forget damn near everything about that show. The fact that this new one seems to be drawing heavily from Voyager mythos is a big strike against it in my book, but I do nonetheless plan on viewing it with an open mind, hopefully not to my detriment.

 

[Christopher]

The fact that this new one seems to be drawing heavily from Voyager mythos is a big strike against it in my book, but I do nonetheless plan on viewing it with an open mind, hopefully not to my detriment.

"Heavily?" I'm not sure about that. I get the impression (from the character art) that the intention is to feature mostly all-new aliens and stories, as a standalone entry point for new viewers. Most of the Delta Quadrant is still uncharted, after all, so just being in the DQ doesn't require reusing specific cultures and species from the tiny, tiny part of it previously visited by Voyager. It seems more likely to me that they chose that setting specifically because it didn't have to connect to past continuity, because it's full of wide open uncharted spaces to explore. (At least, I hope so.) It seems that Janeway will be the main point of connection, but since it's only a hologram of Janeway meant as a training program, that's kind of a peripheral connection.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Yes, perhaps "heavily" is too strong a word. But they're definitely going back to that well to a degree, which gives me pause.

Like I said, I will view it with an open mind (especially since my daughter seems to be interested in it) and see how it plays out. A lot's happened in the audience zeitgeist since the last time VOY was on the air. I'm optimistically hoping for a more evolved take on the subject (albeit for a kids' show). We shall see.

 

[Christopher]

Yes, perhaps "heavily" is too strong a word. But they're definitely going back to that well to a degree, which gives me pause.

Spinning off a couple of aspects of Voyager doesn't mean it will be like Voyager. Look at DS9. It was built around concepts from TNG -- Bajor, Cardassia, wormholes, Trill, Wolf 359, not to mention the O'Briens and eventually Worf -- but it was very distinct from TNG. Torchwood spun off Captain Jack, the Cardiff Rift, and Torchwood itself from Doctor Who, but it couldn't have been more different from Doctor Who.

I'm optimistically hoping for a more evolved take on the subject (albeit for a kids' show).

The same setting doesn't mean the same subject. Voyager was about a Federation crew trying to get home. Prodigy is about a group of alien teens discovering a Starfleet ship that's come to their home space and becoming its crew. It's pretty much the direct opposite take.