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Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 1 spoiler discussion!

Wow, okay. Wish this material would/could be included during the regular broadcast, but as I said before, I trust the extended cuts will at least be the versions included on the eventual Blu-ray release.

or at the very least they make it available to viewers outside the US who don't have access to the CW's website.
 
Wow, okay. Wish this material would/could be included during the regular broadcast, but as I said before, I trust the extended cuts will at least be the versions included on the eventual Blu-ray release.
Not going to happen as the episode runtime for television broadcast has to fit in the "hour-long" format (including commercials); and networks don't like to consistently extend it to say 1 hour and 5 minutes on a regular basis - or cut back on commercial time because that's a major source of how they recoup the production expenses and ultimately make a profit.

That's why when they put it up on their streaming service they can extend it however they see fit. (And they know the rabid fans will still most likely watch it first run on TV and then watch it again later on their streaming service <--- and they can use that to entice more advertisers to pay money to put something up on the streaming service version.)
 
The contradiction results when trying to make sense of Superman's powers. You can dress Superman's powers up in technobabble all you want, but at the end of the day they are still magical. Neither yellow sunlight bestowing superpowers that are eliminated under red sunlight nor extragalactic physical laws have any basis in actual science whatsoever. To pretend otherwise and claim that technobabble makes it somehow more reasonable is actually to suck the fun from it.

AKA the Berman-era Star Trek TV series. There was more nonsensical, technobabble-pumped stretching to seem scientifically plausible on those shows than actual character development.

I wonder if both boys have inherited equal but opposite power sets from their dad, explaining why Jordan can't manifest his abilities unless he's near John. Consider:
John has inherited Clark's ability to absorb and internalize solar energy (perhaps explaining his athletic prowess to a degree), but he can't manifest that energy externally.

It is still odd that Jonathan appratently inherited not an ounce of Kryptonian anything (where superpowers are concerned)--at least early on, but I will have to assume he will develop an ability down the road.

g at Clark. He is much more likeable when interacting with Jonathan. Hopefully the writers will dampen down the whole "Superman is an awful father for taking so much time saving the world" plotline.

Well, that's the drive of the series at this point, and the next episode builds on that teen angst / "bad dad" sub-plot.
 
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This show is a lot better than I expected. A lot better.

It's a nonsensical waste of time to pretend that there's a conceptually consistent thing called the "Arrowverse" and insist that everything Berlanti does adhere to that very low bar. Clearly the producers saw an opportunity to step up their game with this series and they've leaned into it. Let the old shows keep up - if they can.
 
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Superman and Lois
Season 1 - Episode 3 - "The Perks of Not Being a Wallflower"


Clark/SM / Lois: Clark's making perfect sense about not revealing powers to the world, but that will be ignored, and in comes teen drama.

Lois' car rigged to explode was--of course--a warning to back off. Kyle's nonchalant behavior about the blast might lead viewers to think he's working for Edge, but at this point, I still think he's a fanboy of sorts.

Lois pursuing the Powell/missing worker story is interesting in how dark her life is becoming, and wondering how "in the trenches" Chrissy Beppo is with Lois as things heat up.

Jonathan / Jordan Kent:
As teased last week, Jordan screams at Clark, wishing he would return to his old ways of not being around. Nothing like trying to understand one another. Anyway, he was pissed at Clark for "spying" on him at school, but he somehow missed the fact that Clark not showing up would have meant an ass-beating at the hands of Sarah's boyfriend. Yeah, he has enhanced strength, but he's no fighter. Jordan is so desperate to use his powers (or prove the Jor-El hologram wrong), that he forgets what a disaster his life would be if his true nature is exposed.

Jordan suddenly wanting to try out for the football team,...yeah, that's going turn out just fine. Jonathan's resentment about Jordan muscling in on the one area where Jonathan could excel sans powers is justified. As one of the teen antagonists said to Jordan, sometimes it pays to "stay in your lane" despite Jonathan changing his mind, telling Clark that Jordan should be allowed to "...be special."

Kyle/Lana/Sarah: Sarah being such a petulant teen asshole, coupled with Kyle being an uncaring dick--well, he cares about Edge "saving" Smallville--comes off like a set-up for Lana to...well here we go, she's seeking comfort / understanding from Clark...

NOTES: "Subjekt 11"--the Kazakhstan experiment who attacked Lois--could have killed her with one blow, but it was only thanks to her signal device (which she held up like she was showing it off as a QVC host) that she survived. Worn out trope. With "Subjekt 11" killed off by a woman with heat vision (hinting that she was the recipient of some sort of experiment to replicate Kryptonian powers as well), and one can assume she is not a one-off, the scales are increasingly not tipped in Superman's favor. If he needed help, one wonders who he might call, and I do not mean his sons.

Next week:
Sam Lane decides to buy into Alt-Luthor's warning about Superman, leading him to lock horns with his daughter...

GRADE: B.
 
As I've said, my preference is that a given version remain consistent within itself; what other interpretations of the character do is beside the point. And the Arrowverse has established that Kryptonians can't fly in space, so that should be the "fact" in this reality. I can buy a timeline reset changing the history of the world, but changing the physics and biology is harder to suspend disbelief about.

Although I guess Crisis established that every DC live-action universe is part of the multiverse, including ones where Superman had different powers.

The original Crisis also facilitated a change in Kryptonian powers in the Man of Steel reboot.
 
I was delighted that, with this episode, they found a way to keep the tone they've established while allowing a bit more humor to creep in. There were more laughs in this week's outing than in the first two combined. A little lightness of touch always serves Superman well.

Lois's investigation is serious stuff, however, and the motel room scene had an effectively violent edge to it. And the scene toward the end between Lana and Sarah plumbed some difficult emotional depths. I think this installment had the best and most skillful balance of elements they've achieved yet.

This show is such a gift to us Superman fans.
 
Garfin and Tulloch are turning out to be MVPs here, but everyone is pretty damn good.
 
I'm not crazy about the attempt to turn this show into Friday Night Lights or whatever that was -- not really a genre I'm into. And I find the show too solemn and angsty and not as much fun as the other Arrowverse shows (even the dark and gritty ones of which have their share of humor, snarky dialogue, and entertainingly over-the-top aspects). Still, I think they're doing a fairly good job with the relationship between the boys, and I like the way Jonathan stands up for Jordan. Plus I was concerned that Jordan wanted to use his powers to bully Sarah's (ex-)boyfriend, so it was cool that he managed self-restraint.

It was fun how blase Clark and Lois are about people blowing up Lois's car. It's just a sign she's on the right track.

But why did the superstrong assassin seem to recognize the call device when Lois held it up? And why isn't it a signal watch?


Looks like there are other Kryptonians on the planet. Faora perhaps?

Just before she showed up, I think I heard the assassin mention someone named Lar who'd be taking care of something. That sounds like a Kryptonian name, but I don't know if it's meant to be hers. The DC Database doesn't mention any female Kryptonians of that name. There's a male Phantom Zone criminal named Lar-On (basically a Kryptonian werewolf). Plus there's Lar Gand, but that's Mon-El's other name, and he's a Daxamite.


Interesting that Lana doesn’t know his secret. Maybe she does and hasn’t told him

Maybe since Lois and the boys know, they wanted to go in a contrasting direction with Lana.
 
So glad that the tone of this show is unlike the superficial, treacly storylines of Flash and Supergirl. Knowing that Berlanti is capable of managing this sort of thing cheers me up enormously where the HBOMAX Green Lantern show is concerned.
 
I think this show might be the future of the Arrowverse. It's original audience is aging out of the older shows cartoonists angst and now they got stiffer comic competition from Disney and HBO. Or it could just be a return to basics because the tone would fit in fine with early Arrow. Jason
 
I think this show might be the future of the Arrowverse. It's original audience is aging out of the older shows cartoonists angst and now they got stiffer comic competition from Disney and HBO. Or it could just be a return to basics because the tone would fit in fine with early Arrow. Jason

:wtf: Superman & Lois is the most CW-ish show of the currently running Arrowverse shows, the entire show is based around teen angst, with Superman added in to try to appeal to people who don't like the generic CW teen drama stuff. The show could easily have have kept Superman to having one kid, and keeping that kid a toddler, if they wanted to get away from the stupid CW angst. But instead they added an extra kid and changed the ages during Crisis, making this is the only Arrowverse show focused on teenagers (well, Black Lightning kind of is, but as bad as that show is BL himself still felt more like the main character then his kids did, from what I watched at least).

I agree that S&L is probably the future of the Arrowverse, but in a bad way with the CW eliminating all the good elements to make more of the drama that they prefer to make but didn't/don't get much of from the older shows. I was shocked that the new Batwoman wasn't a teenager, and I'll be even more shocked if any new Arroverse show going forward (unless the Arrowverse dies off, which would be great once flash is over if they all just get cancelled) doesn't have teens in the main cast (outside of direct spinoff shows obviously, like that weird potential BL spinoff that has been talked about)..
 
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