Spoilers WandaVision discussion thread

[Jayson1]

What if the real world isn't the real world? What if it's a alternate universe. Maybe even the X-Men universe from those fox movies. A hear a certain character might be in the show that makes me think this and also I think someone said Darcy has a slightly different job than what she was going for in the Thor movies. Maybe Vision is alive in this universe and the only person truly connected to the MCU verse is Wanda and Agnes who knows what's up even though she also under Wanda's spell as well.

Jason

 

[theenglish]

Well, that became downright creepy at the end.

Wanda was downright frightening when her little bubble reality was threatened, both when Vision started to figure out that something was wrong and after Monica mentioned Ultron. With so much focus on the sitcom aspect of things, not enough people are talking about Twilight Zone aspect of things. Each episode has more of a "It's a Good Life" vibe to it.

I'm guessing next week will be when we start to get a few answers about what's going on.

Spoiler: Wanda from the Comics

People who don't know the comics, also don't know about Wanda mental instability nor her capability of doing truly villainous things -- that will be the shock value behind the upcoming episodes I think.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Mar-Vel is a woman.

Annette Benning.

She was on Earth in the early 80s.

If she gave birth "then" then Hulking is 40.

Although if she laid an egg, she could have put it on ice.

When the Human Torch's Skrull wife laid an egg, that was a trick.

Mar-Vel's teen son who is gay, Hulking, is in love with one of Wanda's boys who is also gay.

 

[Anwar]

I loved how they shifted the aspect ratio at the end, with the picture slowly opening up, instead of just cutting from one to the other.

Darn it, I was hoping to be the first person to bring that up! Sevres me right waiting till now to watch the episode...

Paul's 70's hair is repellent.

How did men get laid back then looking like that?

He looks like a cross between Ned Flanders and Shaggy!

 

[Noname Given]

This is side question, but when Captain America returned the Infinity Stones to the past, they weren't in the same "form" as in they left their pasts. The Mind Stone was in the scepter/spear form in the past, but he only returned the stone sans scepter. Same with the Space Stone; it was sans Tesseract. Same with the Reality Stone; it was not in Aether form. Same with the Time Stone; it was sans Eye of Agomoto. Didn't the other verses get "divergent" due to these changes? Maybe The Ancient One was the first stop, and she used the Time Stone to "repair" the missing pieces.

But they were returned to the alternate times and realities from which they were taken. In other words, In the reality that we are "following", all the stones are still destroyed. Captain America return them to their realities so more alternate realities would not be created.
^^^
And yes if that sounds convoluted that's because it is, but hey I didn't write the script to "Avengers: Endgame".

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Each episode has more of a "It's a Good Life" vibe to it.

I was thinking that as well, and it really came through tonight. I think Jayson was right that the first three episodes make more of a complete pilot so to speak.

All I can say to the above post is that there is a subtle art to building suspense. That art can be lost on some.

I think I've had enough shows, and hell, even movies, that seem to only exist to build suspense and then end up being a nothingburger that it makes me gunshy that there isn't going to be a worthwhile payoff for sticking with it.

It's unintentional but the sort of threat, "normal" people in a weird house, feels little like Sapphire and Steel.

Unitentional? hmm I've always thought there was a quality of 70s production that seems to feed into that.

 

[matthunter]

Finally, an episode that didn't make me want to break my TV. It still wasn't funny, but we got actual plot development. Neighbors acting suspiciously, one woman getting ejected into the real world outside of the town which apparently is a real town based on the fact that it has a sign in the real world. This is more of what I expected from episode 1, sitcom stuff but with consistent "something isn't right" vibes throughout the episode. It does help that this form of sitcom is less awful then the 50s stuff, but it was having the weird reality stuff all through the episode that made me actually interested and kept my attention. This is what I wanted to see in the show, and we're finally getting it. I can put up with bad sitcom stuff if its just part of the mystery of the show and not the whole focus, and this was the first episode to start to get that right, in my opinion.

Translation: All that stuff people told me and was blatantly apparent from the trailers and the showrunners comments came true, but now I'VE seen it I can believe it's true and they weren't lying to me, because that's obviously the only set of circumstances that could possibly occur. Because my opinion is king.

 

[JD]

Uhm, would she have gotten any advice beyond “don’t shit your diapers and get a good sleep while your sister is shooting a scene instead of you”?
Do the twins have actual sitcom experience beyond the age of 2?

Full House ran for quite a while and they were on it the entire time, so they were older by the time it ended.
Just checked and it was only 8 years, so I guess they weren't as old as I thought.

Personally, I think it's somehow "whomever" (SWORD, SHIELD, Hydra) has put her in this situation to get what they want. Well, I don't see that working out for them, but Wanda may end up resurrecting Vision, which opens things in future shows for them both to go forward.
Just guesswork, whatever happens I'm happy to go along for the ride.

I don't think S.W.O.R.D. are the ones responsible for what's going on. Jimmy Woo was the one asking who was doing this to her, and he's most likely working for S.W.O.R.D., so if they were the ones doing, he would probably know that.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Unitentional? hmm I've always thought there was a quality of 70s production that seems to feed into that.

They're not trying to emulate British programming, which is a horse of a different colour.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Episode 3 is called “Now in Color”.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Mar-Vel is a woman.

Annette Benning.

She was on Earth in the early 80s.

If she gave birth "then" then Hulking is 40.

Although if she laid an egg, she could have put it on ice.

When the Human Torch's Skrull wife laid an egg, that was a trick.

Mar-Vel's teen son who is gay, Hulking, is in love with one of Wanda's boys who is also gay.

Vell.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Just like Disney did with season 1 of The Mandalorian they’re doing a soundtrack album for each episode of WandaVision.

 

[theenglish]

Full House ran for quite a while and they were on it the entire time, so they were older by the time it ended.
Just checked and it was only 8 years, so I guess they weren't as old as I thought.

The production team had a hard time dressing them as they got older since they aren't identical twins and their features became more distinctive. It has been reported in several places that the cast and crew couldn't believe the audience accepted two different girls playing the same character for so long.

 

[ToddKent]

Looking forward to hitting 80's territory. I don't know what they'll be based on. Can we have a Cheers episode?

Looks a lot like Family Ties to me, especially how Vision is dressed.

 

[Jayson1]

Looks a lot like Family Ties to me, especially how Vision is dressed.

That or Step by Step.

Jason

 

[Finn]

Looks a lot like Family Ties to me, especially how Vision is dressed.

That or Step by Step.

Jason

Looks like All in the Family (mirrored). I know it's a 70s show but I cant think of a 80s show that looks like that

All in the Family

Family Ties

Step by Step

 

[JD]

I just started turning on Family Ties while I'm getting ready in the morning, and the picture reminds me a bit of the house a little bit of that.

 

[Finn]

Growing Pains?

Edit: Just checked. Doesn't resemble Growing Pains living room scenes at all. I swear one of the shows had a window like that.

 

[Noname Given]

Growing Pains?

Edit: Just checked. Doesn't resemble Growing Pains living room scenes at all. I swear one of the shows had a window like that.

I think they're going a little more broad with respect to what they are homaging going forward.

Episode 3 mostly had a Brady Bunch aesthetic with respect to the internal sets. The only real Partridge Family influence was the colored glass windows that were there to evoke the color scheme of the Partridge Family band school bus.

But for example, nowhere in the episode did anyone do a musical number at all; and the family rock band / musical aspect was a big part of the Partridge Family; but that was nowhere to be seen in this episode.

Also it still had a Bewitched vibe; but as Wanda is the Scarlet Witch, that's not something these sitcom homages are going to drop

So yeah for the '80s I think we're going to see a Family Ties / Mork & Mindy aesthetic with respect to background set design and costumeing.

But going forward I don't think you're going to see the sitcom elements from a specific sitcom as closely intertwined as we did in the first two episodes paying more direct homages to both the Dick Van Dyke show and Bewitched.

And I'm really fine with that because honestly, the the sitcom homages while an aspect of the story aren't really the point of the story.

 

[Finn]

I know