Hey, I never noticed that before....

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  1. Discofan

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    Plus Scotty loses his pants a couple of times... Or is it McCoy?
     
  2. Mytran

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    Not just his pants but his whole lower body! :guffaw:
    A hallmark of the maximum amount of cell sheets that could be layered
     
  3. CuriousCaitian

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    Can't believe I've never noticed that. :cardie: Spotted plenty of other errors - like M'Ress borrowing I think Uhura's body for some shots - but never that. Naturally I'll be looking closer next time I watch through!

    To be fair to TAS, it's far from the most error-strewn animated series out there. Tiny Toon Adventures, for example, was a pretty high-profile show - Steven Spielberg for a producer, no less - with much greater resources than TAS, but was littered with mistakes, the best I've spotted being a character cell jumping to the other side of the scene for a couple of frames.
     
  4. Maurice

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    Camera mistakes were common. They're even in theatrical shorts like Looney Tunes. Expensive to fix, and most studios other than Disney didn't bother.
     
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    Well, in the Looney Tunes cartoon, more often than not you wouldn't be able to tell if it's intentional.

    It's like when they show you the bloopers of these really goofy Sitcoms. I mean you have to wonder why they didn't leave them in.
     
  6. Maurice

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    Rubbish. When two characters in midstep leap across the frame and back because one of the cels got out of order there's no mistaking that as anything but a mistake.
     
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    One would think that with computers a mistake like that would be easy to correct. Hell, I could almost do it with the tools I have at my disposal and I am not even in the business.
     
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    By the 23rd century Vulcans have only been "logical" for about 2,000 years (give or take).

    T'Pau even states: "What thee are about to see comes down from the time of the beginning..."
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    And she's not talking about the Vulcan age of Awakening, she's talking about the very beginning of ancient Vulcan society. Pon Far also has a biological component that Vulcans can't ignore. Given all that, they might consider it logical not to change a ritual that involves an aspect of their society they try to suppress the rest of their life. It's a reminder of what they were before the Awakening; and is the only situation where Vulcan emotion is still allowed to exist without shame.

    As Spock stated: "Vulcan understands...but even we don't speak of it among ourselves. It is a deeply personal thing."
     
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    They should stop being so dickish about criticizing other people for being emotional/traditional/irrational.
     
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    It's their way. ;)
     
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  11. Discofan

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    First-time notice: When Cochrane in "First contact" re-plugs the jukebox after Riker shut it off there's a sleeping man behind him that wakes up and starts drinking (again).
     
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    I was thinking the other day.... The Tholian Web is probably the episode featuring the least of Kirk. However, he is constantly referred to/missed, and a focal point for both the crew and the plot. So really I feel we don't 'miss' him as much as we could, as his vicarious presence is felt throughout.
     
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    Im watching 'The Omega Glory' and Tracey says his flunky is 462 years old and his father was over 1000.
    I thought the long life was meant to start after the war. And that would have meant the war would have had to have taken place at least 900 years ago and probably more as it would have taken many generations to build up this incredibly long life.
    That would mean that the civilisation on their planet was much older than Earths. Perhaps they invented the Pledge of Allegiance and it somehow got to Earth 600 years later
     
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    Good catch. I still think these people are left overs from early colonization from Earth but got time travelled back in time. They probably tripped over the same black star that the Enterprise tripped over in the previous season. :shifty:

    I don't think these people count years as we do. Tracey says their ages are based off seeing the red bird. :wtf: Tracey must have done the math gyrations himself to somehow determine that one red bird is the equivalence to 11 Earth years. :crazy:
     
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    I find it odd that he leapt to the conclusion that it was something in the atmosphere rather than just the aliens natural lifespans. Did he freak out when he learned how long Vulcans lived? Did he join Starfleet hoping he could get stationed on Vulcan and start downing plomeek soup?
     
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    He'd have a good reason to think in terms of the unnatural. The planet was polluted by a horrible bioweapon that had killed Tracey's crew. Supposedly the weapon had originally been intended to kill the natives, though. These natives were not dead, so something new had emerged on the planet to protect them, after the introduction of the weapon - either the warring sides had developed an antidote, or then the local conditions unexpectedly provided one.

    That this antidote might be connected to the amazing longevity is the leap. But Tracey explains his logic there: he feels the longevity is the consequence of these people being amazingly healthy. And this health can logically be credited to the antidote, because it's so unnatural to Tracey, and the antidote is the one out of the two unnatural things he already has established as being present on the planet (the other being the weapon) that could in theory give perfect health.

    Mind you, an antidote in the air does exist - this is why our heroes survive. The naturally long lives are an independent phenomenon, not something Tracey could deduce from the other evidence, but the evidence in turn is fully suggestive of it not being an independent phenomenon!

    The interesting thing here is that Tracey's illegal actions are not logically related to the longevity thing at all. There's nothing selfish about him siding with the losing side in a genocidal war when he could get his purported antidote from the winning side just as well (and when he himself is a natural candidate for a member of the winning side, by looks!). Only what he next proposes (but never achieves) smacks of selfishness, but buying one's way out of Starfleet execution pits with the antidote sounds like a victimless crime...

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  17. Henoch

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    ...except for the thousands of Kohms that he killed. :wah:
     
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    "We the people" is the beginning of the constitution, not the pledge of allegiance.
     
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    Kirk finishes the Pledge of Allegiance first.
    KIRK: And to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. ​
     
  20. Discofan

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    The gibberish that the alien guy mumbles is a distortion of "We the people"