I do not need a TV show to tell me that.
I think that its importance was overstated but even if so I do not believe that is the case now. Nor do I think it is necessary at this point in time, because I think the discussion of unnecessary killing is front and center in public dialog. I think that Trek can just be entertainment.
She's a Kirk. So no.
well, where is this discussion on unnecessary killing exactly? Not seeing much of it lately. On the contrary, exactly because right now mindless killing mooks without looking back seems to be normal it might be a good idea for Star Trek to take a step back from that. I mean, Star Trek *invented* the stun setting. And, interestingly, they used it even on enterprise, when some might have said it shouldn’t be available yet, probably because they didn’t want starfleet to kill any opponent they encountered, in self-defense or not.
For me it's part of work discussions, Trek RPG group I'm on, a movie forum. I don't know. I see it pop up a lot.
Because Trek fans overthink things.
yeah, thinking that a main character killing hundreds of people with no clear reason should be addressed somehow is overthinking things. Sure.
I work in mental health so it comes up. I see it as a nonissue but it comes down to the person.
Address it all you want. Its still fantasy.
interesting...But most people don’t think much about it, apparently. Which I don’t think is a positive thing.
A lot can be said about a society by looking at its fantasies.
Such as?
such as that the idea of killing “the enemy” without much thinking, just because it’s the enemy, is fine. We should know well where that leads, but we never learn, apparently.
Humans are slow learners. We see repeated patterns again and again. And as much as it would be nice to blame media the answer is not that simple. It starts with the individual and willing to learn new patterns.
Actually by 3rd season, that show was largely ok. Maybe TNG...that was still trash at S3 I think.
Well... it is!
Not a matter of believe. It simply is.
I use Chrome almost exclusively. No issue here.
i never blamed the media. But Star Trek should be able to recognize the issue and tackle it, not go along with it.
TNG season 3 had a lot of great stuff. And enterprise season 3 was terrible in my opinion, but I know some don’t agree.Another stupid episode. It had its fairly good action/fight scenes (but they were still just average and certainly unimaginative - we've seen corridor fights 1000x before). Anyway, anything good was overshadowed by the stupidity:
-Why does every goddam episode have a torture scene? This literally makes zero sense. I guess it's creative laziness: heighten viewer engagement in the easiest, dumbest way possible.
-The source of 'the burn'. Quite unique in terms of story resolutions, since it's all of these at once: anti-climactic, implausible, boring, random. Well done, moron writers! That whole sub-plot deserved like 4 episodes or whatever...seriously? With that sort of lame revelation at the end? Wow.
-Even they know this show has nothing to do with star trek: the quote at the end, and the original series music. I.e. it's overcompensation/brainwashing. They're saying to us: "This is actual star trek. Believe it, trekkies". Many here do, apparently.
Discovery has more stupid episodes into the 3rd season than any other series, although I'll need to check Enterprise to make sure.
(Btw this forum is broken in Chrome - can't edit, hangs when you post, etc.)
