Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x12 - "There Is A Tide…"

[Deks]

Yeah, let's not forget that in another timeline the sphere data helps Control wipe out all intelligent life in the galaxy.

Not really an accurate statement considering that initially, Control didn't get its hands on the Sphere Data.... it evolved entirely on its own.
Remember that the Sphere was put in Disco's path because of Burnham's mother... and back then, the Sphere was literally in its dying moments before it downloaded itself into Discovery.

I just don't see how Control would be able to get its hands on the AI data in general if the Sphere was destroyed in early Season 2 somewhere in deep space.

Control only learned of the Sphere Data after it was on board Discovery (probably via official channels) and then targeted Disco to get the AI data so it can evolve faster (aka, Control was actively downloading specific information, but otherwise it didn't have real help from the Sphere Data itself - which is odd considering that the Sphere Data could have put up firewalls around itself much like it did when Disco crew tried deleting it to prevent bits and pieces of itself from being copied by malicious AI - which may work temporarily, but it would still provide time for the crew in general).

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

A fair observation. I was simply observing that both types of criticism are out there, including sexist ones. It was not directed at anyone in particular. I'm not saying all criticisms are based around that but that I see more directed toward Burnham and Tilly.

And if fans don't like the characters that is just fine. No harm, no foul.

Oh God ya both criticisms are out there. DIS has had attacks involving every kind of horrible ism and phobia. But I don't think right now on this site that is where it's coming from

 

[Bad Thoughts]

We still can't build Pyramids.

We can't go to the Moon.

 

[fireproof78]

Oh God ya both criticisms are out there. DIS has had attacks involving every kind of horrible ism and phobia. But I don't think right now on this site that is where it's coming from

Nor do I, nor was that what I was claiming.

 

[Angry Fanboy]

We still can't build Pyramids. And that's even longer ago, from where we are. So it's not unheard of.

Of course we could build a pyramid if we needed to. Don't be silly.

 

[Lord Garth]

We can't go to the Moon.

I hope you mean "We can't go to the Moon today!" and not "We faked the Moon Landing in 1969!"

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

We still can't build Pyramids

Yes we can

 

[Bad Thoughts]

I hope you mean "We can't go to the Moon in Today" and not "We faked the Moon Landing in 1969!"

As in American engineers and scientists do not know how to replicated the technology that brought humans to the Moon in 1969.

 

[Lord Garth]

Of course we could build a pyramid if we needed to. Don't be silly.

I'm really not being silly. Who's built a pyramid since Ancient Egypt? Modern engineers and architects still can't wrap their minds around the logistics of how they did it back then.

Here's a link that you can look at.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Of course we could build a pyramid if we needed to. Don't be silly.

People were obsessed with pyramids when I was a kid. They thought the bloody things were a miracle cure for pretty much anything...hey, it was the 70's, what are you gonna do.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

As in American engineers and scientists do not know how to replicated the technology that brought humans to the Moon in 1969.

Yes they do

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

I'm really not being silly. Who's built a pyramid since Ancient Egypt? Modern engineers and architects still can't wrap their minds around the logistics of how they did it back then.

Here's a link that you can look at.

You are talking about us being unable to built it using the tools of the day. But we could certainly build one easy enough

 

[ITDUDE]

Or these guys

Oh man, I haven't watched that movie in decades. I remember liking it a lot! I wonder if it still holds up?

 

[Bad Thoughts]

Yes they do

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...bility-to-travel-to-the-moon/?sh=bde409f1f48e
We cannot replicate what was done in 1969. Full stop.

 

[Angry Fanboy]

I'm really not being silly. Who's built a pyramid since Ancient Egypt? Modern engineers and architects still can't wrap their minds around the logistics of how they did it back then.

Here's a link that you can look at.

You're being silly. We've had no need to build such a pyranid. If there was some dire emergency tomorrow that could only be solved by us building a pyramid, using the technology we have at our disposal in 2020, the human race could build one.

I think you know this is the case but you feel like agreeing would be backing down.

 

[ITDUDE]

We still can't build Pyramids. And that's even longer ago, from where we are. So it's not unheard of.

Sure we can. It's bunch of stones on top of other stones. Easy enough. What we don't know of for sure, is how they built them 5,000 years ago. But I guess as with everything, the answer is with lots of time and hard work.

 

[ITDUDE]

We can't go to the Moon.

Sure we can, build a rocket and Gooooo. It's expensive, not a lot of financial gain (where is portable H3 refining technology when you really need it) so we don't do it anymore. But once China lands a man on the moon in next year or so, I'm sure patriotic pride will kick in (like it did in 60's)

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/...bility-to-travel-to-the-moon/?sh=bde409f1f48e
We cannot replicate what was done in 1969. Full stop.

We could if we rebuild all the factories that make all the parts and metals. It would be an unnecessary pain but it is not impossible if for some freak reason we needed to.
Full Stop

 

[Lord Garth]

I think you know this is the case but you feel like agreeing would be backing down.

Let's not do this. There have been plenty of times in the past 21 years I've been here where I came around to agreeing with posters I disagreed with initially. I'm not in the mood for this today. I'm actually in a good mood. So I'm going to let you have this.

 

[valkyrie013]

I liked it, actually did a decent job of making osyra a villian. Better than a number of movie villains ..

Was nice to see her line was actually giving up power and face justice.
And the part with Staments chewing out mikey was brilliant.
Sad to see Mary's husband get vaporized..
Looking forward to next week!